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(08-04-2022, 07:00 PM)Timbavati Wrote: Part 2 Kruger National Park, Orpen,25 July 2022, 09h45
While waiting for the lions to mate, we spotted the white female lioness approaching the mating lions. She came to rest close to the vehicles watching the area where the male lion was. She got up once and sniffed the area and quickly ran away. A few minutes later she presented herself to the male and was met with aggression, he was in no mood for interruptions.
The white Birmingham lioness was chased off by the Bigger Mbiri male
Photo credits: Charmane Baleiza
(08-04-2022, 11:08 PM)Timbavati Wrote: What a beast!
A fantastic sighting from last month of the bigger Mbiri male. He was seen mating with a lioness when the white Birmingham lioness approached and he chased her off! Amazing!
Photo credit: Charmane Baleiza
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So many questions on this interaction. Have the Ross Males been unseated by the Mbiri, do we have another Birmingham breakaway, and where has Shaka gotten to? Haven't seen Shaka in a little bit.
(08-05-2022, 07:41 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Have the Ross Males been unseated by the Mbiri
Mbiri males were dominant over eastern Ngala for a long time already so nothink realy changed between Mbiri and Ross males, which doesn't mean it will remain so for a much longer - that is Mbiri males may attempt to fight for a bigger price and fully challange Ross males over their holdings.
(08-05-2022, 07:41 PM)BA0701 Wrote: do we have another Birmingham breakaway
Potentilly on the way. Females will ussually avoid to mate with their fathers or brothers so they split from a core pride to find more suited mating pair which might turn into permanent (if Mbiri sire cubs with them, they won't be able to just take them to the core pride as long as Ross males rules it as Ross males would kill those cubs.
(08-05-2022, 07:41 PM)BA0701 Wrote: and where has Shaka gotten to? Haven't seen Shaka in a little bit
HSaka was matting with that smae female couple of days ago as well.
(08-05-2022, 07:41 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Have the Ross Males been unseated by the Mbiri
Mbiri males were dominant over eastern Ngala for a long time already so nothink realy changed between Mbiri and Ross males, which doesn't mean it will remain so for a much longer - that is Mbiri males may attempt to fight for a bigger price and fully challange Ross males over their holdings.
(08-05-2022, 07:41 PM)BA0701 Wrote: do we have another Birmingham breakaway
Potentilly on the way. Females will ussually avoid to mate with their fathers or brothers so they split from a core pride to find more suited mating pair which might turn into permanent (if Mbiri sire cubs with them, they won't be able to just take them to the core pride as long as Ross males rules it as Ross males would kill those cubs.
(08-05-2022, 07:41 PM)BA0701 Wrote: and where has Shaka gotten to? Haven't seen Shaka in a little bit
HSaka was matting with that smae female couple of days ago as well.
Thank you for that, @Potato my friend, it was very helpful!
I ended off the last blog not expecting to be driving too much this past week, but some changes in bookings led to me being out on drive for most of the week, and what a week it was! The lions of the east took centre stage as a week of unexpected intruders led to some interesting sightings, and they could have some even more interesting consequences over the coming weeks and months. The first intruders introduced themselves when they – “they” being two youngish male lions that have now been identified as young males from the Black Dam Pride in the neighbouring Thornybush – were found trailing behind a nervous looking Mayambula lioness.
The Mayambula Pride had been found finishing off a kill beyond the western limits of their territory early one morning before moving down into the Nhlaralumi Riverbed to rest their full bellies. The next day the guides following up found a single lioness moving rapidly back towards the core of the territory, and soon the reason for her haste became known when the two young male lions appeared. Luckily the lioness managed to throw them off of her scent trail and the intruders stopped just short of the area where the other Mayambula lionesses were with the cubs.
The pride was found moving over our eastern boundary the following day, but fortunately all eleven cubs were still fine, and when they returned a day later and killed a wildebeest it seemed as though the intruding males had not had much impact on their behaviour. A day or so later, the males made a reappearance right in the heart of Mayambula territory and walked around scent-marking and spraying as if they owned the place. Even the not-so-distant roars of the Skorro males didn’t seem to deter them. Being smaller males I was not too worried that they would pose much threat to the Skorro males and the Mayambula cubs. When the two young males were seen crossing west into the Klaserie at the end of the week, I thought that their exploration of the area was over.
I was wrong.
The next morning as I headed east in search of male lions, I got word that two male lions had been found close to Nkhari homestead. Shortly after another young male lion was found in the area, and then another. It was all a bit confusing for the guides, and difficult to keep up, as the lions were all moving in different directions, and there was more roaring coming from different directions. I was heading there slowly, but when the two young male lions suddenly turned into a group of five male lions, I wasted no time in getting into the area! Arriving in the sighting expecting to see the Vuyela coalition, I was somewhat surprised to see that it was another coalition of five males, but somewhat younger than the Vuyela boys, and still with some way to grow.
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*This image is copyright of its original author
The mystery as to who they were had to be put on pause as one of the dominant Skorro males came roaring into the area, and quite unexpectedly left very soon afterwards with the five young males chasing after them…oh dear! Only two of the males persisted in the chase as they all disappeared, roaring as they ran into the distance. The three other young males stayed behind and continued to roar, with other calls echoing from all directions. A short while later the two young males – subsequently identified as the Birmingham Breakaway young males from the southern Timbavati – came running back from where they were heading with reports of the Skorro male not far behind them.
As lions moved off in all directions, we soon found that we had lost them all, and the two Black Dam males that had been around earlier had also vanished. Luckily, the roaring close to field camp led to one of the Skorro males being located as he headed back north, but minutes later after losing him briefly, another report came that there were two males running back in the total opposite direction. These lions were making it impossible to follow them, just when I thought I knew what was going on, another lion would pitch up. It soon ended up with the two Black Dam young males pursuing a lone Skorro male, but upon realising that he was being trailed, soon turned on them and chased after them, asserting his authority. As the morning wore on, the lions settled down; the Black Dam males spent the day next to Tanda Tula Field Camp and the Skorro male returned to the Mayambula pride. We have no idea where the five Birmingham Breakaways disappeared to.
While this was all going on, Ginger also managed to find a single Mayambula lioness, and then another two lionesses and three cubs (not to mention a pack of wild dogs after they stole a kill from a leopard).
So, what does this all mean for our lions? It is too soon to tell, but it could make for an interesting few weeks if these invading lions continue to hang around. The way the Black Dam males were scent marking and roaring, they seem to believe that they owned the place. However, it seems unlikely that they would overthrow the two Skorro males, as long as the latter stick together, which didn’t seem to be happening yesterday! The fact that the Birmingham Breakaways chased off the Skorro male so easily is a little concerning, but as these males are quite young, I can’t see them taking over the territory just yet. I don’t think the Mayambula lionesses would be too welcoming of their presence. For now, my prediction is that the Skorro males will have to work hard to keep these intruding coalitions at bay, but as things stand, I can’t see them losing out to either group just yet.
Aside from that action, the single Sark lioness managed to kill herself a large kudu bull near Nkhari and kept it away from the hyenas for a couple of days. Two of the Mayambula lionesses also managed to kill a warthog one afternoon to round off a good week for the pride. The Giraffe Pride continued to frustrate us by only leaving tracks around Plains Camp without any sightings.
I ended off the last blog not expecting to be driving too much this past week, but some changes in bookings led to me being out on drive for most of the week, and what a week it was! The lions of the east took centre stage as a week of unexpected intruders led to some interesting sightings, and they could have some even more interesting consequences over the coming weeks and months. The first intruders introduced themselves when they – “they” being two youngish male lions that have now been identified as young males from the Black Dam Pride in the neighbouring Thornybush – were found trailing behind a nervous looking Mayambula lioness.
The Mayambula Pride had been found finishing off a kill beyond the western limits of their territory early one morning before moving down into the Nhlaralumi Riverbed to rest their full bellies. The next day the guides following up found a single lioness moving rapidly back towards the core of the territory, and soon the reason for her haste became known when the two young male lions appeared. Luckily the lioness managed to throw them off of her scent trail and the intruders stopped just short of the area where the other Mayambula lionesses were with the cubs.
The pride was found moving over our eastern boundary the following day, but fortunately all eleven cubs were still fine, and when they returned a day later and killed a wildebeest it seemed as though the intruding males had not had much impact on their behaviour. A day or so later, the males made a reappearance right in the heart of Mayambula territory and walked around scent-marking and spraying as if they owned the place. Even the not-so-distant roars of the Skorro males didn’t seem to deter them. Being smaller males I was not too worried that they would pose much threat to the Skorro males and the Mayambula cubs. When the two young males were seen crossing west into the Klaserie at the end of the week, I thought that their exploration of the area was over.
I was wrong.
The next morning as I headed east in search of male lions, I got word that two male lions had been found close to Nkhari homestead. Shortly after another young male lion was found in the area, and then another. It was all a bit confusing for the guides, and difficult to keep up, as the lions were all moving in different directions, and there was more roaring coming from different directions. I was heading there slowly, but when the two young male lions suddenly turned into a group of five male lions, I wasted no time in getting into the area! Arriving in the sighting expecting to see the Vuyela coalition, I was somewhat surprised to see that it was another coalition of five males, but somewhat younger than the Vuyela boys, and still with some way to grow.
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
The mystery as to who they were had to be put on pause as one of the dominant Skorro males came roaring into the area, and quite unexpectedly left very soon afterwards with the five young males chasing after them…oh dear! Only two of the males persisted in the chase as they all disappeared, roaring as they ran into the distance. The three other young males stayed behind and continued to roar, with other calls echoing from all directions. A short while later the two young males – subsequently identified as the Birmingham Breakaway young males from the southern Timbavati – came running back from where they were heading with reports of the Skorro male not far behind them.
As lions moved off in all directions, we soon found that we had lost them all, and the two Black Dam males that had been around earlier had also vanished. Luckily, the roaring close to field camp led to one of the Skorro males being located as he headed back north, but minutes later after losing him briefly, another report came that there were two males running back in the total opposite direction. These lions were making it impossible to follow them, just when I thought I knew what was going on, another lion would pitch up. It soon ended up with the two Black Dam young males pursuing a lone Skorro male, but upon realising that he was being trailed, soon turned on them and chased after them, asserting his authority. As the morning wore on, the lions settled down; the Black Dam males spent the day next to Tanda Tula Field Camp and the Skorro male returned to the Mayambula pride. We have no idea where the five Birmingham Breakaways disappeared to.
While this was all going on, Ginger also managed to find a single Mayambula lioness, and then another two lionesses and three cubs (not to mention a pack of wild dogs after they stole a kill from a leopard).
So, what does this all mean for our lions? It is too soon to tell, but it could make for an interesting few weeks if these invading lions continue to hang around. The way the Black Dam males were scent marking and roaring, they seem to believe that they owned the place. However, it seems unlikely that they would overthrow the two Skorro males, as long as the latter stick together, which didn’t seem to be happening yesterday! The fact that the Birmingham Breakaways chased off the Skorro male so easily is a little concerning, but as these males are quite young, I can’t see them taking over the territory just yet. I don’t think the Mayambula lionesses would be too welcoming of their presence. For now, my prediction is that the Skorro males will have to work hard to keep these intruding coalitions at bay, but as things stand, I can’t see them losing out to either group just yet.
Aside from that action, the single Sark lioness managed to kill herself a large kudu bull near Nkhari and kept it away from the hyenas for a couple of days. Two of the Mayambula lionesses also managed to kill a warthog one afternoon to round off a good week for the pride. The Giraffe Pride continued to frustrate us by only leaving tracks around Plains Camp without any sightings.
I ended off the last blog not expecting to be driving too much this past week, but some changes in bookings led to me being out on drive for most of the week, and what a week it was! The lions of the east took centre stage as a week of unexpected intruders led to some interesting sightings, and they could have some even more interesting consequences over the coming weeks and months. The first intruders introduced themselves when they – “they” being two youngish male lions that have now been identified as young males from the Black Dam Pride in the neighbouring Thornybush – were found trailing behind a nervous looking Mayambula lioness.
The Mayambula Pride had been found finishing off a kill beyond the western limits of their territory early one morning before moving down into the Nhlaralumi Riverbed to rest their full bellies. The next day the guides following up found a single lioness moving rapidly back towards the core of the territory, and soon the reason for her haste became known when the two young male lions appeared. Luckily the lioness managed to throw them off of her scent trail and the intruders stopped just short of the area where the other Mayambula lionesses were with the cubs.
The pride was found moving over our eastern boundary the following day, but fortunately all eleven cubs were still fine, and when they returned a day later and killed a wildebeest it seemed as though the intruding males had not had much impact on their behaviour. A day or so later, the males made a reappearance right in the heart of Mayambula territory and walked around scent-marking and spraying as if they owned the place. Even the not-so-distant roars of the Skorro males didn’t seem to deter them. Being smaller males I was not too worried that they would pose much threat to the Skorro males and the Mayambula cubs. When the two young males were seen crossing west into the Klaserie at the end of the week, I thought that their exploration of the area was over.
I was wrong.
The next morning as I headed east in search of male lions, I got word that two male lions had been found close to Nkhari homestead. Shortly after another young male lion was found in the area, and then another. It was all a bit confusing for the guides, and difficult to keep up, as the lions were all moving in different directions, and there was more roaring coming from different directions. I was heading there slowly, but when the two young male lions suddenly turned into a group of five male lions, I wasted no time in getting into the area! Arriving in the sighting expecting to see the Vuyela coalition, I was somewhat surprised to see that it was another coalition of five males, but somewhat younger than the Vuyela boys, and still with some way to grow.
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
The mystery as to who they were had to be put on pause as one of the dominant Skorro males came roaring into the area, and quite unexpectedly left very soon afterwards with the five young males chasing after them…oh dear! Only two of the males persisted in the chase as they all disappeared, roaring as they ran into the distance. The three other young males stayed behind and continued to roar, with other calls echoing from all directions. A short while later the two young males – subsequently identified as the Birmingham Breakaway young males from the southern Timbavati – came running back from where they were heading with reports of the Skorro male not far behind them.
As lions moved off in all directions, we soon found that we had lost them all, and the two Black Dam males that had been around earlier had also vanished. Luckily, the roaring close to field camp led to one of the Skorro males being located as he headed back north, but minutes later after losing him briefly, another report came that there were two males running back in the total opposite direction. These lions were making it impossible to follow them, just when I thought I knew what was going on, another lion would pitch up. It soon ended up with the two Black Dam young males pursuing a lone Skorro male, but upon realising that he was being trailed, soon turned on them and chased after them, asserting his authority. As the morning wore on, the lions settled down; the Black Dam males spent the day next to Tanda Tula Field Camp and the Skorro male returned to the Mayambula pride. We have no idea where the five Birmingham Breakaways disappeared to.
While this was all going on, Ginger also managed to find a single Mayambula lioness, and then another two lionesses and three cubs (not to mention a pack of wild dogs after they stole a kill from a leopard).
So, what does this all mean for our lions? It is too soon to tell, but it could make for an interesting few weeks if these invading lions continue to hang around. The way the Black Dam males were scent marking and roaring, they seem to believe that they owned the place. However, it seems unlikely that they would overthrow the two Skorro males, as long as the latter stick together, which didn’t seem to be happening yesterday! The fact that the Birmingham Breakaways chased off the Skorro male so easily is a little concerning, but as these males are quite young, I can’t see them taking over the territory just yet. I don’t think the Mayambula lionesses would be too welcoming of their presence. For now, my prediction is that the Skorro males will have to work hard to keep these intruding coalitions at bay, but as things stand, I can’t see them losing out to either group just yet.
Aside from that action, the single Sark lioness managed to kill herself a large kudu bull near Nkhari and kept it away from the hyenas for a couple of days. Two of the Mayambula lionesses also managed to kill a warthog one afternoon to round off a good week for the pride. The Giraffe Pride continued to frustrate us by only leaving tracks around Plains Camp without any sightings.
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*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
Wow, a lot of things happening around there. The eldest of the Birmingham Brreakaway males is near the same age as BYM. I had hoped it may be possible at one point that they may form a coalition, back when Tyson was working so hard to run BYM off. The other males are a bit younger. Skorro males would do well to stick close together for a bit.
08-06-2022, 02:53 PM( This post was last modified: 08-06-2022, 02:56 PM by Tr1x24 )
(08-05-2022, 10:26 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Wow, a lot of things happening around there. The eldest of the Birmingham Brreakaway males is near the same age as BYM. I had hoped it may be possible at one point that they may form a coalition, back when Tyson was working so hard to run BYM off. The other males are a bit younger. Skorro males would do well to stick close together for a bit.
Looks like the oldest Birmingham breakaway is not with them, he is not on the pictures, there was "only" 5 males, meaning that 2 where not there.
On that picture are all 3 youngest ones and 1 middle one, i assume there was another middle one there, meaning that oldest and 3rd middle was not with them.
(08-05-2022, 10:26 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Wow, a lot of things happening around there. The eldest of the Birmingham Brreakaway males is near the same age as BYM. I had hoped it may be possible at one point that they may form a coalition, back when Tyson was working so hard to run BYM off. The other males are a bit younger. Skorro males would do well to stick close together for a bit.
Looks like the oldest Birmingham breakaway is not with them, he is not on the pictures, there was "only" 5 males, meaning that 2 where not there.
On that picture are all 3 youngest ones and 1 middle one, i assume there was another middle one there, meaning that oldest and 3rd middle was not with them.
(08-05-2022, 10:26 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Wow, a lot of things happening around there. The eldest of the Birmingham Brreakaway males is near the same age as BYM. I had hoped it may be possible at one point that they may form a coalition, back when Tyson was working so hard to run BYM off. The other males are a bit younger. Skorro males would do well to stick close together for a bit.
Looks like the oldest Birmingham breakaway is not with them, he is not on the pictures, there was "only" 5 males, meaning that 2 where not there.
On that picture are all 3 youngest ones and 1 middle one, i assume there was another middle one there, meaning that oldest and 3rd middle was not with them.
