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Coalitions of Kruger National Park

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"Smudge Nose" Hippo pools male has made a new friend, they were seen on the S25 mating with a lioness. Credit: Sarah Ellert
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Those 4 young males on s114 close to h1-1. Still not sure who they are. Credit: Wild wings Safari

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More pics of those 4. Credit: Gillian Lord Meier

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Senior Mbiri. 1/2 Nsemani males recently 
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Excellent… “Afsaal” also
Means to unpack/set up camp so with them
finding their new territory after being ousted in the area of Afsaal, it has a nice ring to it.
That’s what Louis at Jock said to me about the name
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(12-17-2021, 12:52 AM)Brahimlegend Wrote: More pics of those 4. Credit: Gillian Lord Meier

Could be the Othawa subs? I have no photo of any Othawa subs but whisker patterns are pretty clear on those photos so I would appreciate if anyone help me identify these 4
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(12-17-2021, 12:41 AM)Brahimlegend Wrote: I recon that oldest renosterkoppies is son of Mpondos he doesn’t look much older then that Blondie one, just this guy developed quick even as a young sub he was fully maned. But yeah that other guy seen is the youngest renosterkoppies someone posted a video of him with that pic

Idk, found his older pictures, this ones are posted in June 2019, but not sure if thats the date when taken: 


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Because this is his photo only 4 months later in October 2019:


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Can mane grow like that in such a short period? 

For comparison, this are pictures of younger Renosterkoppies males from same month, October 2019, blonded male at the right:


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They definitely look much younger then him, should be around 2.5-3 yrs old then, while "older" male looks like 4 yrs old at that photo in October 2019.

I mean im not sure, if he is Mpondos son, he is then ultra developed for his age, because Mpondos offspring in Renosterkoppies pride should not be born before late 2016, is this 3 yrs old lion? :


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But then there is question, if he is not Mpondos son, how did he survive..
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(12-17-2021, 01:35 AM)Mdz123 Wrote: Could be the Othawa subs? I have no photo of any Othawa subs but whisker patterns are pretty clear on those photos so I would appreciate if anyone help me identify these 4

They are not Othawas.
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That coalition is down to 1, perhaps 2 members. They never had 4 males. 
Though Jr could have joined another coalition. Chances are against it being them.
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(12-16-2021, 10:31 PM)lionuk Wrote:
(12-16-2021, 09:50 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: They definitely gone too soon, as except 5th (and now Snip Tail) no other males from Mpondos reached 10 yrs of age unfortunately..

Yeah, it's sad about that magnificent coalition. But, at least, they left amazing offspring, like this male, 1/3 Renosterkoppie males seen yesterday on S1
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these are there 3 sons?
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(12-17-2021, 04:44 AM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote:
(12-16-2021, 10:31 PM)lionuk Wrote:
(12-16-2021, 09:50 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: They definitely gone too soon, as except 5th (and now Snip Tail) no other males from Mpondos reached 10 yrs of age unfortunately..

Yeah, it's sad about that magnificent coalition. But, at least, they left amazing offspring, like this male, 1/3 Renosterkoppie males seen yesterday on S1
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these are there 3 sons?
 
Either Jock or Mpondo sons.
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(12-17-2021, 12:48 AM)Brahimlegend Wrote: "Smudge Nose" Hippo pools male has made a new friend, they were seen on the S25 mating with a lioness. Credit: Sarah Ellert
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who the other male ?
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One of the H2-2/Transport dam males.
Photo credit: Bushbaby Sam 

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The old Jock males could be potentially fathers of the bigger Renosterkoppies male, In my personal opinion, the resemblances are quite high. Body and mane size as well. Definitely, the Renosterkoppies male carry some good bloodline. Even if he isn't son of the old Jock males. His bloodline must be a strong one. such a big mane for a young age.
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@"Timbavati" Could be, he does resemble to that guy a lot
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