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BA0701 · 07-27-2021, 02:53 AM

(07-24-2021, 02:53 PM)Potato Wrote:

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He used to have a much more impressive mane, is the cause for the loss known? Such as is it a medical condition, stress, or something else all together?

Potato · 07-27-2021, 06:06 PM

(07-27-2021, 02:53 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(07-24-2021, 02:53 PM)Potato Wrote:

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He used to have a much more impressive mane, is the cause for the loss known? Such as is it a medical condition, stress, or something else all together?

I do not think size of his mane is any different then what he ussed to have through the past years.

Tr1x24 · 07-27-2021, 06:14 PM

(07-27-2021, 02:53 AM)BA0701 Wrote: He used to have a much more impressive mane, is the cause for the loss known? Such as is it a medical condition, stress, or something else all together?

Manes on lions change from time to time, can be bigger or smaller depending on many factors like which season is in the year, mange or other parasites, diet, stress etc..

Theres no lion who has the same lengt of his mane all the time.

RookiePundit · 07-29-2021, 03:06 AM

(07-27-2021, 06:14 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 02:53 AM)BA0701 Wrote: He used to have a much more impressive mane, is the cause for the loss known? Such as is it a medical condition, stress, or something else all together?

Manes on lions change from time to time, can be bigger or smaller depending on many factors like which season is in the year, mange or other parasites, diet, stress etc..

Theres no lion who has the same lengt of his mane all the time.

Well, maneless ones (like the infamous Tsavo maneaters) perhaps.

BA0701 · 07-29-2021, 04:30 AM

(07-29-2021, 03:06 AM)RookiePundit Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 06:14 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 02:53 AM)BA0701 Wrote: He used to have a much more impressive mane, is the cause for the loss known? Such as is it a medical condition, stress, or something else all together?

Manes on lions change from time to time, can be bigger or smaller depending on many factors like which season is in the year, mange or other parasites, diet, stress etc..

Theres no lion who has the same lengt of his mane all the time.

Well, maneless ones (like the infamous Tsavo maneaters) perhaps.

There was definitely something wrong with those two, not sure what, diet, stress, illness, don't know, but there was definitely something going on there. I read one account that believed they began man eating, as they were likely starving when they killed the first one, realized how easy these meals were, and just continued. They became rather proficient at it, for sure.

Rabubi · 07-29-2021, 06:34 PM

(07-29-2021, 04:30 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 03:06 AM)RookiePundit Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 06:14 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 02:53 AM)BA0701 Wrote: He used to have a much more impressive mane, is the cause for the loss known? Such as is it a medical condition, stress, or something else all together?

Manes on lions change from time to time, can be bigger or smaller depending on many factors like which season is in the year, mange or other parasites, diet, stress etc..

Theres no lion who has the same lengt of his mane all the time.

Well, maneless ones (like the infamous Tsavo maneaters) perhaps.

There was definitely something wrong with those two, not sure what, diet, stress, illness, don't know, but there was definitely something going on there. I read one account that believed they began man eating, as they were likely starving when they killed the first one, realized how easy these meals were, and just continued. They became rather proficient at it, for sure.

It was most likely because the Tsavo maneaters had to deal with a combination of issues with their teeth/jaws (making it difficult to hunt their usual prey) and rinderpest, which reduced the numbers of prey species and killed the railway workers. That and the fact that we are far easier prey to catch, kill and eat in comparison to their usual diet contributed to them becoming maneaters. Here's a link to a website that further elaborates on these lions: https://freerangeamerican.azurewebsites....of-tsavo//

That being said, apparently maneless lions in Tsavo are quite regularly seen, at least more so than previously believed. According to researchers, the reason why a lot of the male lions in that region have reduced/no manes is due to a combination of heat, aridity and the thorny vegetation they have to navigate while patrolling/hunting.

Here is a link to a paper that explains all of that, it's an old paper though: https://www.researchgate.net/publication...correlates

BA0701 · 07-29-2021, 08:56 PM

(07-29-2021, 06:34 PM)Rabubi Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 04:30 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 03:06 AM)RookiePundit Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 06:14 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 02:53 AM)BA0701 Wrote: He used to have a much more impressive mane, is the cause for the loss known? Such as is it a medical condition, stress, or something else all together?

Manes on lions change from time to time, can be bigger or smaller depending on many factors like which season is in the year, mange or other parasites, diet, stress etc..

Theres no lion who has the same lengt of his mane all the time.

Well, maneless ones (like the infamous Tsavo maneaters) perhaps.

There was definitely something wrong with those two, not sure what, diet, stress, illness, don't know, but there was definitely something going on there. I read one account that believed they began man eating, as they were likely starving when they killed the first one, realized how easy these meals were, and just continued. They became rather proficient at it, for sure.
It was most likely because the Tsavo maneaters had to deal with a combination of issues with their teeth/jaws (making it difficult to hunt their usual prey) and rinderpest, which reduced the numbers of prey species and killed the railway workers. That and the fact that we are far easier prey to catch, kill and eat in comparison to their usual diet contributed to them becoming maneaters. Here's a link to a website that further elaborates on these lions: https://freerangeamerican.azurewebsites....of-tsavo//

That being said, apparently maneless lions in Tsavo are quite regularly seen, at least more so than previously believed. According to researchers, the reason why a lot of the male lions in that region have reduced/no manes is due to a combination of heat, aridity and the thorny vegetation they have to navigate while patrolling/hunting.

Here is a link to a paper that explains all of that, it's an old paper though: https://www.researchgate.net/publication...correlates

Thank you for that @Rabubi I will definitely read these links.

Rabubi · 07-30-2021, 02:04 AM

(07-29-2021, 08:56 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 06:34 PM)Rabubi Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 04:30 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(07-29-2021, 03:06 AM)RookiePundit Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 06:14 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 02:53 AM)BA0701 Wrote: He used to have a much more impressive mane, is the cause for the loss known? Such as is it a medical condition, stress, or something else all together?

Manes on lions change from time to time, can be bigger or smaller depending on many factors like which season is in the year, mange or other parasites, diet, stress etc..

Theres no lion who has the same lengt of his mane all the time.

Well, maneless ones (like the infamous Tsavo maneaters) perhaps.

There was definitely something wrong with those two, not sure what, diet, stress, illness, don't know, but there was definitely something going on there. I read one account that believed they began man eating, as they were likely starving when they killed the first one, realized how easy these meals were, and just continued. They became rather proficient at it, for sure.
It was most likely because the Tsavo maneaters had to deal with a combination of issues with their teeth/jaws (making it difficult to hunt their usual prey) and rinderpest, which reduced the numbers of prey species and killed the railway workers. That and the fact that we are far easier prey to catch, kill and eat in comparison to their usual diet contributed to them becoming maneaters. Here's a link to a website that further elaborates on these lions: https://freerangeamerican.azurewebsites....of-tsavo//

That being said, apparently maneless lions in Tsavo are quite regularly seen, at least more so than previously believed. According to researchers, the reason why a lot of the male lions in that region have reduced/no manes is due to a combination of heat, aridity and the thorny vegetation they have to navigate while patrolling/hunting.

Here is a link to a paper that explains all of that, it's an old paper though: https://www.researchgate.net/publication...correlates

Thank you for that @Rabubi I will definitely read these links.

No stress :)

lionuk · 08-09-2021, 08:38 PM

Zigzag Mbiri Male. What a handsome big boy!
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