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(01-23-2021, 02:53 AM)Psyckoo Wrote: Black Dam young male at Thornybush Game Reserve
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He's turning into a beast. 1/6 Black dam young males sons of the loner Giraffe male
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(01-23-2021, 07:41 PM)Potato Wrote: Tanda Tula update

The latter kill and concurrent vulture activity brought about the sad realisation that the River Pride had indeed moved their den site, as this kill happened right there, and had the lions been anywhere in the area, they would most certainly have come to investigate just what it was that the vultures were after. Combine this to the fact that we haven’t seen any tracks or heard any audio of the pride for the past three days now, and we are a bit stumped as to just where they have moved to!  In fairness, there are only two vehicles driving around most of the time, so it is a difficult task to check all the areas that the lions might be, but we will keep on trying and hope that they show up again soon. I suspect that the lioness may have moved the cubs away from the Machaton Riverbed following the last rains, and with the high potential of some serious flooding next week, this is not a bad move.


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As mentioned last week, the gap left by the River Pride now that they are settled in the east has led to some new lions coming into the area, and we caught up with a young male and young female right on our border with the Klaserie last weekend. The sighting was peaceful at first as the two young lions (we estimate them to be around two and a half) rested after dark, but the local hyena clan must have sensed some inexperience in the lions and soon about a dozen or more hyenas were stamping their dominance all over the lions! The two lions held their ground (and nerve) and managed to keep the hyenas at bay, until the clan members lost interest and moved off.  It was a wonderful sighting to witness if for nothing other than the incredible sounds that these two eternal enemies were emitting!


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Mentioned new lions in the region:




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Limping Nharhu is looking in bad shape. Video from 6:26 to 7:50




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(01-24-2021, 04:36 PM)Potato Wrote: Limping Nharhu is looking in bad shape. Video from 6:26 to 7:50

Yea, he prob has TB, losing muscle mass on that leg, just like Nsuku, Buddy etc.
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(01-24-2021, 06:07 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 04:36 PM)Potato Wrote: Limping Nharhu is looking in bad shape. Video from 6:26 to 7:50

Yea, he prob has TB, losing muscle mass on that leg, just like Nsuku, Buddy etc.

Nsuku was injured on that leg by Kambula females. TB just finished him off. Leg injury could be cause by many different thinks, not just TB. Nharhu male looks good apart from that injury. TB doesn't need to be the case here.
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(01-24-2021, 06:51 PM)Potato Wrote: Nsuku was injured on that leg by Kambula females. TB just finished him off. Leg injury could be cause by many different thinks, not just TB. Nharhu male looks good apart from that injury. TB doesn't need to be the case here

Doesn’t need to be, but he is too long injured to be just regular injured, that would heal or partialy heal by now.. But hes is getting worse and worse, which it means thats prob TB, which doesnt allow to heal and it eats its muscle, just like Nsuku, Buddy, Sizananis etc..
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(01-23-2021, 09:51 PM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(01-23-2021, 02:53 AM)Psyckoo Wrote: Black Dam young male at Thornybush Game Reserve
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He's turning into a beast. 1/6 Black dam young males sons of the loner Giraffe male
you mean brutus was giraffe male that father 6 black dam young males ?
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(01-24-2021, 07:49 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: you mean brutus was giraffe male that father 6 black dam young males ?

Not Brutus, youngest Giraffe male who was not in coalition of 6 Avoca/Giraffes.
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(01-24-2021, 07:49 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote:
(01-23-2021, 09:51 PM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(01-23-2021, 02:53 AM)Psyckoo Wrote: Black Dam young male at Thornybush Game Reserve
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He's turning into a beast. 1/6 Black dam young males sons of the loner Giraffe male
you mean brutus was giraffe male that father 6 black dam young males ?

No, He's son of the youngest Giraffe male born in 2011.
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(01-24-2021, 09:05 PM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 07:49 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote:
(01-23-2021, 09:51 PM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(01-23-2021, 02:53 AM)Psyckoo Wrote: Black Dam young male at Thornybush Game Reserve
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He's turning into a beast. 1/6 Black dam young males sons of the loner Giraffe male
you mean brutus was giraffe male that father 6 black dam young males ?

No, He's son of the youngest Giraffe male born in 2011.

thanks wow Avoca/Giraffes sired a lot cubs 
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(01-24-2021, 09:47 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: thanks wow Avoca/Giraffes sired a lot cubs 

That Giraffe male who sired Black Dam males was not part of Avoca/Giraffe coalition, althrough he is their younger brother.
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Speaking of the old Giraffe Males, I know this came up in the Lion Tales thread once but:

https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-lions-of-timbavati?page=112
#1,668 - One of the Giraffe males with the Avoca lionesses (Mother of the Xikukutsu males) - Shindzela Safari Camp - September 2015 - Image credit: Johan Smalman

Wouldn’t this make the Giraffe Male the father of Xikukutsu Males if they were born Dec 2015? 

 
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(01-25-2021, 12:04 AM)Gijima Wrote: Speaking of the old Giraffe Males, I know this came up in the Lion Tales thread once but:

https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-lions-of-timbavati?page=112
#1,668 - One of the Giraffe males with the Avoca lionesses (Mother of the Xikukutsu males) - Shindzela Safari Camp - September 2015 - Image credit: Johan Smalman

Wouldn’t this make the Giraffe Male the father of Xikukutsu Males if they were born Dec 2015? 

 

Ross males were too in the region in that time and were seen mating with this Avoca lionesses so therefore we can not be certain of who in the end fathered Xikukutsus.
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(01-24-2021, 07:06 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 06:51 PM)Potato Wrote: Nsuku was injured on that leg by Kambula females. TB just finished him off. Leg injury could be cause by many different thinks, not just TB. Nharhu male looks good apart from that injury. TB doesn't need to be the case here

Doesn’t need to be, but he is too long injured to be just regular injured, that would heal or partialy heal by now.. But hes is getting worse and worse, which it means thats prob TB, which doesnt allow to heal and it eats its muscle, just like Nsuku, Buddy, Sizananis etc..

He's not too long injured for it to be TB, hip or ligaments/muscle injuries aren't always fully recoverable, and probably none of these lions like nsuku, hip-scar, sizanani, or buddy had TB. They just had injuries that were getting worse cuz you can't go on bedrest in the wild.
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(01-25-2021, 02:08 AM)Potato Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 12:04 AM)Gijima Wrote: Speaking of the old Giraffe Males, I know this came up in the Lion Tales thread once but:

https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-lions-of-timbavati?page=112
#1,668 - One of the Giraffe males with the Avoca lionesses (Mother of the Xikukutsu males) - Shindzela Safari Camp - September 2015 - Image credit: Johan Smalman

Wouldn’t this make the Giraffe Male the father of Xikukutsu Males if they were born Dec 2015? 

 

Ross males were too in the region in that time and were seen mating with this Avoca lionesses so therefore we can not be certain of who in the end fathered Xikukutsus.

Ok got it. They were so young though but biologically still possible I guess. Thanks
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