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RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - Rishi - 04-13-2020
(04-13-2020, 02:19 AM)jovem2526 Wrote:Quote:There is more variation in stripes or face among Bengal tigers population groups . Sundarban tigers were found to be closest related to Central Indian tigers, not Terai or NE Tigers who they look more similar to. So looks clearly don\'t reveal that much.'
Caspian, Siberian, Korean were very likely Amur tiger subgroups.
What about the shape of the skull?
Even if they are of the same subspecies they have particularities and you cannot say that they are the same. The Siberian tiger is not the same as the Caspian tiger. Each has its physical configuration. And these differences are what could make a difference in the matter of adaptation.
I did not say they are the same, read my comment again.
And for skulls it's the same as stripes or coat colour, or looks, or size, or physique. Read this one, some Bengal tiger skulls were identical to Asiatic lions even.
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The concept of species man-made based on the amount of genetic differences.
Earlier it was determined by genetic study that Malayan tigers are separate from Indochinese tigers. Later another study claimed that all mainland & sundaland tigers are too similar amongst themselves, to be determined separates sub-species.
However in case of Bengal Tiger relocation in India, they do not intermix genetic distinct subgroups... a central Indian tiger will not be translocated to Northeast, but Terai tigers may be someday.
RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - TigrisLeo504 - 04-28-2020
I will be posting some information on Caspian tigers by Sir Reginald Innes Pocock
Reginald Innes Pocock
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The introduction
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Tigress from Nepal
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Tiger from Caucasus in the Berlin Gardens
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Skin of a tiger from Afghanistan
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A list of mounted specimens
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Skull of the Caspian tiger from Maruchak, near Pinjdeh
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Measurements & particulars of different Caspian tiger skulls
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https://archive.org/details/journalofbomb33341929bomb/page/518/mode/2up
RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - Lycaon - 05-19-2020
Caspian tiger in Tajikistan 1937.
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RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - BorneanTiger - 05-22-2020
The Christian Martyrs' Last Prayer by Jean-Léon Gérôme, featuring 2 lions (Asiatic or Barbary?) and a tiger (Caspian?) at the bottom left: https://art.thewalters.org/detail/36782
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RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - Lycaon - 06-18-2020
I found another photo assuri .
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RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - eagleman - 07-06-2020
This tiger ssp grew larger than any Bengal.
RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - Sanju - 07-29-2020
Is it possible to reintroduce Caspian tiger?
Kaveh Faizollahi, a zoologist who worked specifically on the tiger species, told IRNA that the tiger is a flexible species and tolerates a wide range of habitat and climatic conditions, so it is found in tropical areas of Asia to the ever-snow-covered areas of Siberia.
On the other hand, it has a relatively high reproductive rate and a short interval between its reproductions. It is not very problematic in food and can change its hunting technique depending on the type of prey and habitat. Despite, these features human development in West Asia made it vulnerable, he added.
The first feature of tigers that caused them to disappear was the tiger's dependence on the water resources and its presence near river basins, lake edges, and seashores, where the highest concentration of human population exists and the conflicts pushed them toward extinction.
The second one is related to the prey, the natural prey they mainly fed on was deer, and they attracted to northern Iran probably because of the good population of red deer and roe deer.
However, with the population of deer declined, the tiger was inevitably feeding on the wild boar, which has severe population fluctuations and is a temporary source of food.
The third item is hunting, tiger hunting intensified during their final periods living in Iran, due to the reduction of prey and hunting livestock.
Tiger cubs were also captured for illegal trade, in addition, land-use changes, superstitions, and using their organs in traditional medicine were among the other factors eradicated tigers.”
“Certainly, there is no proper habitat for tiger in Iran. If there are intentions to revive the tiger population in Iran, or, in other words, to ensure a stable population of it, a natural habitat must be prepared, including, good vegetation cover, clean water, and enough bait.
Before restoring the Caspian tiger in the country, other species of red and roe deer must be increased; for example, 20 tigers in a hypothetical area may need a population of 10,000 large mammals, which may take several years to expand.
After that, the tigers must gradually enter the prepared area; If there is no wild tiger, the tigers kept in captivity should be used as a parent and re-wild their cubs.
The whole process is very difficult, costly, and time-consuming.https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/450597/International-Tiger-Day-silent-roar-of-Caspian-tiger-is-regrettable
RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - WildCats30 - 08-03-2020
Konstantin Alekseevich Satunin saw a huge caspian tiger in the Caucasus. He wrote it was no smaller than a Tuzemma horse.
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Quote:A tiger of immense proportions...I saw it in the flesh. It appeared to me to be no smaller than the common Tuzemma horse''.
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Mammals of the Soviet Union
This is what horses in the Caucasus look like. Impressive!
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RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - Lycaon - 08-17-2020
Doğa Bilimleri Merkezi
Terrible taxidermy turkish virgata.
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RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - BorneanTiger - 12-18-2020
Skin from Iran, in The Complete Fauna of Iran by Eskander Firouz, pages 66–67:
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RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - SvetTigr - 01-22-2021
Hello!
Im kind of new here on this site, sort of....
I got a question.... is there a possible detailed description of a Caspian Tiger? (Or a colored photo), since i need the real colors of the Caspian Tiger...
I mean the fur and the stripes
Was it identical to the Siberian ones, or was it different?
It's just that i have a Caspian Tiger OC, and i don't know the fur colors....
RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - Dark Jaguar - 01-26-2021
Said to be the last one.
''Last caspian tiger in Caucasus. Killed near Tbilisi in 1922.''
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RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - peter - 01-27-2021
(01-26-2021, 07:37 PM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: Said to be the last one.
''Last caspian tiger in Caucasus. Killed near Tbilisi in 1922.''
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Never saw that one. Thanks for posting. Any details known? Source?
RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - peter - 01-27-2021
(01-22-2021, 07:05 PM)SvetTigr Wrote: Hello!
Im kind of new here on this site, sort of....
I got a question.... is there a possible detailed description of a Caspian Tiger? (Or a colored photo), since i need the real colors of the Caspian Tiger...
I mean the fur and the stripes
Was it identical to the Siberian ones, or was it different?
It's just that i have a Caspian Tiger OC, and i don't know the fur colors....
This thread is loaded with good photographs of Caspian tigers, Svet Tigr. You can find more in the tiger extinction thread. That thread also has a detailed description of Caspian tigers from V. Mazak and a few others. I also posted information on Caspian tigers shot near Mazanderan (Iran) in that thread.
Colour and stripewise, Caspian tigers were quite different from Amur tigers. Same for skulls, size and behaviour.
The Caspian region is large. Tigers shot in the northwestern part were quite different from tigers shot in the eastern part. Reports about tigers seen in remote parts of Afghanistan still come in, but they've never been confirmed by biologists.
RE: The Caspian Tiger (Panthera tigris virgata) - SvetTigr - 02-04-2021
(01-27-2021, 07:56 AM)peter Wrote:(01-22-2021, 07:05 PM)SvetTigr Wrote: Hello!
Im kind of new here on this site, sort of....
I got a question.... is there a possible detailed description of a Caspian Tiger? (Or a colored photo), since i need the real colors of the Caspian Tiger...
I mean the fur and the stripes
Was it identical to the Siberian ones, or was it different?
It's just that i have a Caspian Tiger OC, and i don't know the fur colors....
This thread is loaded with good photographs of Caspian tigers, Svet Tigr. You can find more in the tiger extinction thread. That thread also has a detailed description of Caspian tigers from V. Mazak and a few others. I also posted information on Caspian tigers shot near Mazanderan (Iran) in that thread.
Colour and stripewise, Caspian tigers were quite different from Amur tigers. Same for skulls, size and behaviour.
The Caspian region is large. Tigers shot in the northwestern part were quite different from tigers shot in the eastern part. Reports about tigers seen in remote parts of Afghanistan still come in, but they've never been confirmed by biologists.
Uhhh... i want to ask for a more exact description, since i don't know if this coloring (or adaptation, if you must), is right.