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RE: Lions of Timbavati - T_Ferguson - 03-19-2024
(03-19-2024, 06:40 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Rumors are that apperantly Avoca young male, partner of Guernsey male and son of Mapoza was killed by Mbiri males.
2 boys are seen in Ngala for months, roaring and messing with both Ross and Mbiri males and their prides.
Lets wait and see if its true.
I put this under Kruger. I will go remove it from there.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Tr1x24 - 03-19-2024
So Guernsey male was killed...
Such a shame, he was stunning specimen..
Apperantly last night, this was yesterdays story of this guide:
*This image is copyright of its original author
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Ngonya - 03-19-2024
NOT FOR SENSITIVE
It was confirmed this morning by the guide Johan Adolf Smallman that the Guernsey male was killed by the two Mbiri males, at Ngala, Timbavati. His partner, the young Avoca male, was there but decided to escape leaving his partner alone.
Theres footage of the two Mbiri 'mauling' the already dead body of the unfortunate Guernsey male, brutal sight. I couldn't find the original source to post here so there it is a screenshot.
R.I.P beautiful male
*This image is copyright of its original author
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Tr1x24 - 03-19-2024
(03-19-2024, 09:26 PM)Ngonya Wrote: NOT FOR SENSITIVE
It was confirmed this morning by the guide Johan Adolf Smallman that the Guernsey male was killed by the two Mbiri males, at Ngala, Timbavati. His partner, the young Avoca male, was there but decided to escape leaving his partner alone.
Theres footage of the two Mbiri 'mauling' the already dead body of the unfortunate Guernsey male, brutal sight. I couldn't find the original source to post here so there it is a screenshot.
R.I.P beautiful male
Where did you see the video?
Honestly, in last couple months, with Shaka being injured (prob by Tintswalos) and with both males not looking in greatest shape, getting pressured from Tintswalos from 1 side and Guernsey/Avoca from another, I taught that 2 ageing Mbiris are done.
But looks like 2 old warriors still have some fire in them.
On the other hand, i was worried that young Avoca is still not ready/mature enough for such a challenge.
Here we see another example of problems such "nomadic made" coalitions have, their bond and teamwork in clashes is just not on the lvl "blood" brothers have..
This case reminds me of Nhenha/NK vs PCMs clash.
Theres very few examples, where "nomadic made" coalitions succeed to such lvls as "blood" can (1 of very rare good examples are Orpen males, who where very strong fighting duo).
But other then those very few, "blood" coalitions will in majority cases have upper hand.
So, even when we hope that some solo male finds partner, chances that this new coalition succeed is not that high.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - wingzer0o - 03-19-2024
just saw the video on youtube. RIP
https://youtu.be/iLLhP8UJ1F0?si=JnXU6anHlZUq_cjg
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Ngonya - 03-19-2024
(03-19-2024, 10:12 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Where did you see the video?On the private profile of a Facebook friend.
They've sent me the video so i'll post here later with Daily Motion embed
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mapokser - 03-19-2024
He was a very handsome male, now let's hope Avoca can find another partner.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 03-19-2024
(03-19-2024, 10:12 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Honestly, in last couple months, with Shaka being injured (prob by Tintswalos) and with both males not looking in greatest shape, getting pressured from Tintswalos from 1 side and Guernsey/Avoca from another, I taught that 2 ageing Mbiris are done.Mbiri males being so far pre prime as being before 4 years old were beating such duos as Ross and Mapozas. If at that point they were already such a powerhouse then I would say even being past their prime and not in the greatest condition they have ever been they would still destroy great most of other duos of healty, fit and in their prime male lions and could still compete with strongest duos around. Also it is worth to point out that male at 10 years old is still closer to his prime than at 3,5 or 4 years old.
(03-19-2024, 10:12 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: getting pressured from Tintswalos from 1 side
What preassured? lol Tintswalo males did not even once put their feet on Mbiri males territory. It was actually other way around. Mbiri males were coming in and out into Tintswalo males territory whenever they wanted showing no any respect to Tintswalo males, like not thinking Tintswalos were any threat to them.
Also Tintswalos had difficulty to deal with single Red Road. Mbiri males, even past prime seem to be on totally different leage.
(03-19-2024, 10:12 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Here we see another example of problems such "nomadic made" coalitions have, their bond and teamwork in clashes is just not on the lvl "blood" brothers have..Their problem is why the hell did they moved into Ngala insteed of staying in Shindzela and try to compete with Ross males insteed of Mbiris.
(03-19-2024, 10:12 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: heres very few examples, where "nomadic made" coalitions succeed to such lvls as "blood" canThat is mostly because such coalitions of young unrelated partners are rare in general so proportionally it is rare to see them getting territorial. In most cases such coalitions are formed by old males that lost their brothers already and were left alone such as Freddy and Solo r Smudge and Mabande . For such it is often simply already to late to succeed. If it is coalition of young unrelated partners then they are not deem to no succeed. Examples would be already mentioned by you Orpens, but also Thanda Impis.
(03-19-2024, 10:12 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: So, even when we hope that some solo male finds partner, chances that this new coalition succeed is not that high.Also another think to point out is that in great most of cases such coalitions of unrelated partners are only duo while it is not rare that blood brother form bigger group and if such comes to compete with one another the blood brothers will win, but not because their relation, but simply because outnumbering the oponents.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mapokser - 03-19-2024
@Tr1x24 I thought I'd never see Mbiris in peak condition again but in the video/screenshots I posted here a few days ago from Scar with the pride, he looked to be in peak condition.
In the video of them attacking Guernsey's body, Scar also looks to be in top condition.
Shaka doesn't have his bulkiness but he is still in great condition as seen from the videos of him eating the hyena in Manyeleti few days ago, Tristan even says in the video "he's in great condition but not as impressive as when he came here last year ".
I think that as long as Shaka is at least as strong as he is now and Scar is in top shape, nobody is taking them on in a 2v2 clash.
If Scar also deteriorates to a point he is skinny like he was in the past few months, and Shaka also gets a bit worse like he was, then yeah I'd favor Tintswalo or other prime duos over them.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mbiris were buying their time, waiting till they recover their strength to then go deal with Guernsey and Avoca.
It's quite the coincidence that for the past 3 months they have been in poor to ok condition only, then suddenly Scar is seen back to prime form and immediately after they attack Guernsey and Avoca, killing the older of the duo despite these 2 being annoying them for many months already.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Cath2020 - 03-19-2024
How tragic for the male when he had found a new partner! His former partner was also killed, and now he has succumbed to the same fate that I had hoped and prayed he would avoid after learning about the death of his partner by the Northern Black Dam Males. The Guernsey Male was actually caught by them, too, but managed to luckily escape that confrontation. He didn't get lucky again, unfortunately.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Tr1x24 - 03-19-2024
(03-19-2024, 10:53 PM)Potato Wrote: What preassured? lol Tintswalo males did not even once put their feet on Mbiri males territory. It was actually other way around. Mbiri males were coming in and out into Tintswalo males territory whenever they wanted showing no any respect to Tintswalo males, like not thinking Tintswalos were any threat to them.
Also Tintswalos had difficulty to deal with single Red Road. Mbiri males, even past prime seem to be on totally different leage.
After Shakas lone adventure in Manyeleti where he got hurt, tables turned, since that Tintswalos moved north into Mbiris eastern domain and takeover Skorro pride, Mbiris pride where they have subs.
Obiviously we dont know how it went down, but its clear that Mbiris give up that area, one way or another.
Since that Tintswalos are seen regulary on Orpen/H7 road close to gate, which was core Mbiri area not long ago.
If Tintswalos are so afraid, they would not move in Mbiris domain, closer to them, would they?
And Mbiris, being fierce duo, would definetly not allow Tintswalos moving to Orpen area, closer to them, but they did.
Also, what happened before is irelevant, Tintswalos where barely 4 yrs old when they clashed with prime RRM, and since that Ncile was out for almost 2 years because of snare, Lambile had disease all this time, it was basically Mandevu alone from 2021-23, until last year Ncile finally fully recovered.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Tr1x24 - 03-19-2024
@Mapokser
Yes could be that they waited for perfect timing, as since that Shaka injury Mbiris looked quite rough and weak, thats why i said that.
And as you said, Guernsey/Avoca where messing with them for months, and in the east Tintswalos moved closer to them.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - afortich - 03-20-2024
R.I.P Guernsey boy, killed by Mbiri males, so sad.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Hairy tummy - 03-20-2024
The mbiri boys don't mess about
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mapokser - 03-20-2024
Mbiris still in the same location, eating their rival and roaring, credits to @amypalmerwild