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RE: Size comparisons - Dark Jaguar - 04-26-2020
Posted by Panthera ( @pantheracats ) and shared by Onças do Rio Negro project where I found it.
https://www.picuki.com/media/2065335667713403555
'' Differences between the Jaguar ( Onça-Pintada ) and the Leopard by @pantheracats. The jaguar is much bigger, lives only in the Americas and is an "aquatic" cat. In some places it only hunts caimans and fish ( like in Taiamã Reserve ). The leopard despite of being smaller and more tolerant to human presence it is also an African/Asiatic feline and super adapted to tree life, having in some places a diet of monkeys and birds ( like in the Congo forests ). "Sub-species" of the two cats are among the most threatened animals on the planet: the Amur Leopard (@amurleo_land) and the Brazilian Caatinga Jaguar. ''
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RE: Size comparisons - GuateGojira - 04-26-2020
UPDATE:
Thanks to @Rishi I manage to update the image of the Indian lion with a better picture, I selected the one where we can see the lion in full side view, here is the result:
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I also updated the image in the original post and also in the comparative image of ALL the lion subspecies/population.
Greetings to all.
RE: Size comparisons - Rishi - 04-26-2020
(04-19-2020, 10:41 AM)GuateGojira Wrote: Large predators of India (Including the Sloth bear):
As you know, I am updating the comparative images that I have with more information. In this case I present the comparative image of the co-predators and competitors of the tiger in the Indian subcontinent. Some one could tell me that the sloth bear did not eat meat, but been honest is the only form that I could include it. So, apart from that detail, here is the new comparative image:
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While the information of the Bengal tiger, the Asian lion, the Indian wolf and the Dhole is the same, the data for the Indian leopard and the sloth bear is new. So save it for future references. For any doubt or new information that we an use, fell free to ask or to share the information. Specific information is the small letters, so my advice is the read the letter with the image enlarged.
By the way, here is the updated comparison between the Amur tiger and the Amur brown bear (post 91): https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-russian-brown-bears?page=7
Greetings to all.
Dp you think you can try & fit snow leopard, clouded leopards in this one?
And i realised sloth bear can be replaced by himalayan black bears that actively hunt (notorious for livestock killing).
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RE: Size comparisons - Balam - 04-26-2020
Stripped hyena as well!
RE: Size comparisons - GuateGojira - 04-26-2020
Ok, ok, a lot of animals!
@Rishi, about the snow leopard and the clouded leopard, I am preparing a comparative image of each of them, but the measurements are from animals far away of any known tiger population, that and the fact that these animals do not live side-by-side with tigers in the Indian subcontinent, as far I know, I did not included them in the comparative image. However, like I say, I am working on it, but in they own images.
About the Asiatic black bear, that will be interesting and been honest I allready searched information about that species but like the others, very few information is available, none from India by the way. Now, I prefered the sloth bear because this last species interact much more with the tigers, while the Asiatic black bear interact only in the northern regions and not in the same degree (number of interactions). However maybe in the future I can create a comparative image of that species.
@"OncaAtrox" I was tempted to include the striped hyena and the golden chacal in the comparative image too, but at the end I decided not to do it because of the space and time (I still don't have a good database of size of those animals, just the one of Pocock (1939)). I will like to create a "second part" comparative image that will included not only these two species but maybe also the Marsh crocodile and even the Indian python, but that will take time, so don't wait for it in the near future.
Thank you for your feedbacks and ideas guys, believe me I am taking it in count. By the way, @"OncaAtrox" I almost finish with your image of "jaguar-Sunda tiger" comparison.
RE: Size comparisons - Balam - 04-27-2020
Luke and Han lions besides Raul tiger:
RE: Size comparisons - GuateGojira - 04-27-2020
(04-27-2020, 01:30 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: Luke and Han lions besides Raul tiger:
WOOOW! Those lions dwarf the tiger. By the way, did you know the weights of those lions?
Even more imporant, the name of the tiger is "Raul"?
RE: Size comparisons - Balam - 04-27-2020
(04-27-2020, 02:21 AM)GuateGojira Wrote:(04-27-2020, 01:30 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: Luke and Han lions besides Raul tiger:
WOOOW! Those lions dwarf the tiger. By the way, did you know the weights of those lions?
Even more imporant, the name of the tiger is "Raul"?
I don't have the information on Raul's weight but the keeper was very clear that Han the lion weights 240 kg, Ilanga, the lion at the back, weights almost 250 kg. They're huge.
RE: Size comparisons - Pckts - 04-27-2020
(04-27-2020, 01:30 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: Luke and Han lions besides Raul tiger:
Raulito is getting huge too, he's going to be a big boy.
Him in February
RE: Size comparisons - GuateGojira - 04-27-2020
(04-27-2020, 02:28 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: I don't have the information on Raul's weight but the keeper was very clear that Han the lion weights 240 kg, Ilanga, the lion at the back, weights almost 250 kg. They're huge.
Wow! Those lions look "bigger" than similar sized lions in the wild.
RE: Size comparisons - GuateGojira - 04-27-2020
(04-27-2020, 02:29 AM)Pckts Wrote: Raulito is getting huge too, he's going to be a big boy.
Ohhhh, so Raul is not full sized. That explain the diference.
This tiger is my namesake!
I will definitelly will follow them now. 
RE: Size comparisons - Rage2277 - 04-27-2020
luke and han aren't fat either..wanna see what raul will look like in a year or two
RE: Size comparisons - johnny rex - 04-27-2020
(04-27-2020, 01:30 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: Luke and Han lions besides Raul tiger:
Raulito is a young tiger and he is already reaching the size of Han, Illanga and Luke.
RE: Size comparisons - Balam - 04-27-2020
Jaguar and lion cubs:
RE: Size comparisons - tigerluver - 04-28-2020
I had some time and put together a size comparison of all known forms of tiger. For extant species, the size was based on Mazak (1981) and some data of @GuateGojira. The average size of a male of each extant (or recently extinct) form is represented. For the fossil tigers, the estimations were based as follows:
- P. t. trinilensis: Based on a mandible just shy of 200 mm, which would be of a skull around 300 mm (the size of P. t. balica).
- P. t. acutidens: Based on the upper p4s in Colbert and Hooijer. The p4 of 42 mm outsizes a 204 cm tiger (p4 38 mm - personal data and Christiansen and Harris, Christiansen and Adolfssen data). Thus the body length would be 220-225 cm.
- P. t. soloensis: The 480 mm femur is ~1.15x longer than the average femur of 3 males in Christiansen and Adolfssen (2007) that measured ~204 cm, for an estimated body length of ~235 cm.
- P. t. ssp. (Pleistocene Borneo): The mandible is 1.27x longer than the mandible of a 380 mm Amur tiger skull published in Sherani (2019). It can be inferred this Amur tiger was at least as the three Christiansen and Adofssen (2007) males. Multiplying 1.27 by 204 cm we get a body length of ~260 cm.
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Hope everyone is safe and well.