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RE: Size comparisons - Shadow - 01-31-2019
(01-31-2019, 07:07 AM)Jimmy Wrote:(01-31-2019, 04:23 AM)Shadow Wrote:Looks like a 70- 80 lbs adult female, it's average sized.(01-31-2019, 03:18 AM)Pantherinae Wrote:
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What photo is this? I mean that leopard looks like a cub... :)
I asked because thread is size comparisons and that photo makes leopard look like miniature and there is male lion :) Putting a cub or smallish female leopard in photo doesn´t give so good comparison model :) Male leopards after all are often heavier than hyenas...
RE: Size comparisons - Rishi - 01-31-2019
(01-31-2019, 07:21 AM)Shadow Wrote: Putting a cub or smallish female leopard in photo doesn´t give so good comparison model :)
Well, a camera-trap doesn't choose what walks by it...
RE: Size comparisons - AlexE - 01-31-2019
Tiger lynx leopard at the same place (Leopard closer to the camera trap)
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RE: Size comparisons - Shadow - 01-31-2019
(01-31-2019, 10:20 AM)Rishi Wrote:(01-31-2019, 07:21 AM)Shadow Wrote: Putting a cub or smallish female leopard in photo doesn´t give so good comparison model :)
Well, a camera-trap doesn't choose what walks by it...
My main point is, that it is good to put some explanation to photo and tell about it :) Many people can watch that photo and not all understand the situation. A few written lines makes it clear also to someone who is seeking information and not so familiar with these animals. That´s all :)
RE: Size comparisons - Pantherinae - 01-31-2019
@Shadow
The picture is just a comparison between the species, I don’t see why you should write male or female on the picture? You can do it ofcourse, but I don’t see why it’s worth mentioning if someone doesn’t? Everyone would know this is a smaller leopard, because I doubt this will be the first time anyone that would visit this forum have seen these animals together. A large male leopard and a large female hyena is about the same size, big individuals are about 70 kg, excceptional induviduals might exceed 90 kg. :)
RE: Size comparisons - Shadow - 01-31-2019
(01-31-2019, 09:38 PM)Pantherinae Wrote: @Shadow
The picture is just a comparison between the species, I don’t see why you should write male or female on the picture? You can do it ofcourse, but I don’t see why it’s worth mentioning if someone doesn’t? Everyone would know this is a smaller leopard, because I doubt this will be the first time anyone that would visit this forum have seen these animals together. A large male leopard and a large female hyena is about the same size, big individuals are about 70 kg, excceptional induviduals might exceed 90 kg. :)
I understand, that many times it doesn´t feel important to put information about things, what we think as self evident. I just think, that it is good to remember that some people might look at photo like that and think like "ok, just some photoshopped biased crap" when leopard looks so small and there is a male lion same time and thread is named size comparisons :) So even writing like: camera trapped, female leopard, male lion and hyena, sex uncertain.
I think a little bit like this.... you remember when computers were new thing? When in companies (as today are) there were it-support people. You had some problem with computer, then calling to support and there someone started to explain something, which was self evident to him, but to one who was listening it was like listening mandarin chinese...
I remember many times, when I got fed up and said: "Shut up and come here to show so that someone else can understand too, not just other it-support workers" :)I have a little bit same kind of mentality here, I think :) I know sizes of animals, you know, most of people here know. But I think, that also many people can look things here, who are maybe not so well informed. But now this matter is getting too much attention, I thought, that you reply and I reply shortly when I wrote that first comment
RE: Size comparisons - AlexE - 02-02-2019
Striped hyena and lynx
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RE: Size comparisons - Jimmy - 02-02-2019
(02-02-2019, 02:49 PM)AlexE Wrote: Striped hyena and lynxAmazing!! Contrasting animals, not your average cat and dog pets ;
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RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Luipaard - 02-23-2019
From Research study jaguar, other wildlife in Mexico (Source)
“Jaguars actually used to live in the southwest United States as well,” Nielsen explained recently. But humans ran them out, killing many of them in the process. The jaguars in Sonora represent the northernmost breeding population in their distributional range, which extends to southern South America.
While slightly smaller than the more elongated puma, jaguars are fast, low to the ground and powerful predators. In this area, a male might average 130 pounds or so, and it hunts by itself, stalking and ambushing prey."
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Here are more pictures regarding Central American jaguars. I've also posted pictures of cougars on the exact place so it's easy to compare.
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RE: Size comparisons - GreenGrolar - 03-27-2019
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RE: Size comparisons - Pckts - 03-27-2019
I spoke with Marlon Dutoit yesterday on Pantanal Jaguar Size compared to the Largest Leopards he's seen, he said Jaguars are "much, much bigger"
He spoke of the 160kg Jaguar who we know as Adrian.
Not really news but few people are able to speak on it who have the resume of Marlon.
RE: Size comparisons - Spalea - 03-27-2019
(03-27-2019, 09:00 PM)Pckts Wrote: I spoke with Marlon Dutoit yesterday on Pantanal Jaguar Size compared to the Largest Leopards he's seen, he said Jaguars are "much, much bigger"
He spoke of the 160kg Jaguar who we know as Adrian.
Not really news but few people are able to speak on it who have the resume of Marlon.
160 kilos ? Is it not a little bit exaggerated ? I have heard 135 kilos, no problem, but this is already the average lioness's weight... But 160 kilos ?
RE: Size comparisons - Pckts - 03-27-2019
(03-27-2019, 09:29 PM)Spalea Wrote:(03-27-2019, 09:00 PM)Pckts Wrote: I spoke with Marlon Dutoit yesterday on Pantanal Jaguar Size compared to the Largest Leopards he's seen, he said Jaguars are "much, much bigger"
He spoke of the 160kg Jaguar who we know as Adrian.
Not really news but few people are able to speak on it who have the resume of Marlon.
160 kilos ? Is it not a little bit exaggerated ? I have heard 135 kilos, no problem, but this is already the average lioness's weight... But 160 kilos ?
This is Adrian, he is the 158kg Jaguar
Photo and information credits: Ben Cranke Wildlife Photographer
"Meet Adriano. He weighs in at a whopping 158kg of beautiful male jaguar. I was fortunate to see him on a few occasions on this trip, and each time he was relaxed and posed so nicely for us."
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Probably the heavy weight champion of Pantanal. This male was weight by Panthera organization in 2013 at 156 kg, So probably this year is over 160 kg!!!!!!!!!
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The jaguar is the largest cat in the Americas and is the only living representative of the genus Panthera found in the New World. The largest jaguars have been found in the Brazilian Pantanal region, with a record weight of over 347 pounds (158kg). Jaguars living in heavily forested areas are considerably smaller than those from populations in more open areas like the Pantanal of
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Jaguar (Photo: Nigel Swales)
Brazil and the Llanos of Venezuela. In one study, the average weight of males was 220 pounds (100kg). Head and body length, without the tail may be up to six feet (1.85m), and the tail can measure 30 inches (75cm) more. Height at the shoulder may be up to 30 inches (75cm). The jaguar’s coat color ranges from pale yellow to reddish brown, with a much paler (often white) underbelly. It has spots on the neck, body and limbs that form rosettes, which contain black markings within them. On the head and underparts, the spots are simple black dots. Black jaguars are not uncommon, and even they possess darker rosette markings that are visible in bright light. Compared to a leopard, the jaguar is stocky and more powerfully built. The square jaw and prominent cheeks, along with robust, muscular limbs give evidence of immense strength. It has been said that the jaguar is built for power, not speed. While true, this cat also demonstrates surprising stealth and grace in movement.
http://felid-tag.org/jaguar/ (Site is not working anymore)
This video is not on youtube anymore but I'm sure you can find it again, I saw it and it was confirmed.
Here's a 315lb or 142kg Pantanal Jaguar being measured and weighed
https://youtu.be/8og6vuKPC_E
More measurement here as well
https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-modern-weights-and-measurements-of-jaguars
RE: Size comparisons - Spalea - 03-28-2019
@Pckts :
About #238: ok, agree with your explanations. The fact is: that's a beautiful beast ! Especially on the first and third photo...
I believe the jaguars and the leopards have the same tendancy to be smaller into deep forests ?
RE: Size comparisons - Pckts - 03-28-2019
(03-28-2019, 12:46 AM)Spalea Wrote: @Pckts :
About #238: ok, agree with your explanations. The fact is: that's a beautiful beast ! Especially on the first and third photo...
I believe the jaguars and the leopards have the same tendancy to be smaller into deep forests ?
That info is something I hope to dive into when I go to the Pantanal in July, I plan to ask how they compare to Bolivian Jaguars, what their relationship is with Pumas and what makes the Pantanal so different from everywhere else.
In regards to size, I think it's a mix of 3 factors.
In no particular order
1.Prey size and biomass
2.Terrain "volcanic calderas, deltas, Himalayan foothills, etc."
3.Weather, colder climates create heavier creatures while warm, dry climates will create a leaner version.