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RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - tigerluver - 10-28-2015
@Spalea, art is wonderful. Go ahead and start the thread, maybe I'll join in sometime in the future too!
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Spalea - 10-28-2015
(10-28-2015, 05:52 AM)tigerluver Wrote: @Spalea, art is wonderful. Go ahead and start the thread, maybe I'll join in sometime in the future too!
Do you also draw ? Yes ! Come on ! Show your work too !
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - sanjay - 11-03-2015
Take a look on this video, Awesome video in which tiger catch up the the bait in mid air in slow motion. See who high a tiger can jump.
Its from facebook not youtube
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Pantherinae - 11-12-2015
any info regarding the last part of the video, probably tiger canyons where to tigers fights to death, brutal and just sad.
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Pckts - 11-12-2015
You guessed it, mr Jon Varty himself. Hes had 3 tigers killed in territorial fights, a lioness and cubs, he's been attacked as well, but its all in the name of "conservation" right??
Its sad to see but it is a true testament to what these big cats are capable of. In the wild we can barely see fights due to terrain and scarcity of Tigers by nature, but this gives you an idea of what they are doing when the time comes to defend what has been hard earned.
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Pantherinae - 11-12-2015
(11-12-2015, 04:52 AM)Pckts Wrote: You guessed it, mr Jon Varty himself. Hes had 3 tigers killed in territorial fights, a lioness and cubs, he's been attacked as well, but its all in the name of "conservation" right??
Its sad to see but it is a true testament to what these big cats are capable of. In the wild we can barely see fights due to terrain and scarcity of Tigers by nature, but this gives you an idea of what they are doing when the time comes to defend what has been hard earned.
the guy is in my opinion a Fucking joke... this happen when you cage several tigers no matter how big the cage is. the guy only whats attention, just heard a song where he was singing like a tribute to camera men but it sounded like he sang a tribute to himself. I laughed so hard I almost died
yeah it's incredible to see how fast a tiger can actually kill another tiger, unlike anything I've seen with other cat's fighting went very quick, and I've just seen lions and tiger kill one another. leopards seem to fight more than actually go for the kill. and when they did (in the one fight I've seen) they seemed to be very durable or more unable to kill off the opponent.
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Pckts - 11-12-2015
Here you can see how hard it is to actually kill a big cat without getting a throat bite on.
Watch with the Volume turned up,
You can hear their claws ripping at each others, its gruesome. Especially watch the tiger on the bottom bring the one on tops head towards his back claws to get a nasty slash in time and time again, these things are nasty as they get. Would hate to have a run in with any big cat, that is for sure.
But I have always been amazed at how much damage they are able to sustain and still keep fighting.
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Pantherinae - 11-12-2015
yeah @Pckts it's impressive, I've seen that video several times and the ripping sounds and growls are just insane. tigers fights extremely unlike lions. lions don't actually fight like any other cat.
yeah I would not be in a fight with a panthera cat! I've been pretty messed up by a feral cat once (when I tried to save one and it was scared)
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Pckts - 11-12-2015
That sucks, I have a cat and that little sucker rips me up when he gets feisty, now multiple that cat by 50 and I'm not a happy camper.
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Pckts - 11-24-2015
Here is great write up on Matching Tigers in captivity ....
"Matching tigers for pairing and sharing a display enclosure is a challenging task for the Chhatbir zoo. Tigers are highly territorial and the risk of deaths due to infighting is a real one. Tigers are individualistic and may have different reactions to different prospective partners. One tiger, Apaya, has already killed 2 tigresses and a zoo keeper."
Read about tiger-matchmaking at the zoo. Report in The Times of India
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"Matching tigers for pairing and sharing a display enclosure is a challenging task for the Chhatbir zoo. Tigers are highly territorial and the risk of deaths due to infighting is a real one. Tigers are individualistic and may have different reactions to different prospective partners. One tiger, Apaya, has already killed 2 tigresses and a zoo keeper.
Read about tiger-matchmaking at the zoo. Report in The Times of India (TEXT BELOW, PUBLISHED, 24.11,2015)
Tiger match-making a daunting task for zoo
Vikram Jit Singh / TNN
Chhatbir Zoo: Tiger match-making so that they can pair and frolic in a display enclosure maybe as barbed and tricky as a matrimonial alliance between sworn caste enemies! For months now, zoo authorities are trying to get their prized Royal Bengal tigress, Chirag, to pair with a male. One prospective suitor was a white tiger named, Lucky, but the male did not take kindly to her. So, the authorities tried their luck with Aman, a Royal Bengal male, who was keen as a randy goat but this time Chirag was indifferent. And, then you have a prize male, Apaya, who eats more than any other tiger, is muscular and agile but is a confirmed misogynist, it seems. His history sheet is a bloody one from his earlier stints at Bannerghatta and Bhiwani zoo. It shows Apaya killed two tigresses and a zoo keeper there before he came virtually unmanageable and was remanded to solitary display at Chhatbir.
Unlike lions, which are social animals and live in prides, tigers are loners, very territorial and readily kill another specimen if not compatible. This restricts zoo authorities from displaying more than one tiger in its two main enclosures for public display. Though leopards are also loners, the zoo has managed to place five of them in one display enclosure, where each has found his/her niche and co-exist peacefully. Of the eight tigers at Chhatbir, Roopa and Guddu (18-20 years old) have been cushioned in the off-display enclosures because of old age and related characteristics of non-agility, irritability, food problems etc. This leaves three tigers each for the display enclosures, and individuals are rotated singly during display hours.
''When we try to find a pair of tigers that are compatible, we keep our fingers crossed because there is a real risk of mortality. Earlier, at the turn of the century, the zoo would display 7-8 tigers in one enclosure but one day, the pack turned on the dominant male and killed him. There are also issues of gene pool diversity. We don't want inbreeding. White tiger siblings, Diya and Lakshya, were kept together in a display enclosure till the time they were two years old. Diya then got aggressive and there was a risk of an infighting death. We also did not want them to mate. We separated the siblings and hope to pair them with normal tigers. We tried to pair Diya with Aman but the latter gave her royal ignore,'' Zoo Director, Manish Kumar, told TOI.
PC Tyagi, Scientist-G, specialises in captive breeding, zoo management and participatory resource management at the Wildlife Institute of India, Dehradun. ''Tiger deaths due to infighting in zoos across India occur once in about 2-3 years. Tigers are deprived of female company in captivity and take time to adjust. The way to do it is to first conduct a behavioral study of the individuals and record different parameters. Then, tigers can be paired with a better chance of success.''
As in the wild, tigers mark territory in enclosures by urinating or clawing tree trunks. The higher the claw marks, the more intense is a tiger's assertion. At Chhatbir, a looming 'Bargad' (ficus) tree in one enclosure is raked with such kingly declarations of territory. How tigers or lions are introduced to each other is a fascinating process. The tigers are placed in chambers separated by one empty chamber called the 'one-house gap'. The zoo staff then see if the tigers are initially comfortable with each other. After that, they are put in adjoining chambers. Experienced zoo staff pick up signs of compatibility or otherwise. They are even allowed into the other's empty cage to sniff around and their reactions observed.
The first meeting is a fragile one, where tigers are placed together in a 'crawling chamber', which has limited space. This ensures that if one attacks, the dominant specimen would not be able to fully manoeuvre and deploy his/her killing prowess. Zoo staff watch the first date closely and are ready with high-pressure water hoses, iron rods and tranquilising guns to separate the two if a fight breaks out. If the ice is broken, it is time to shower the roses, bust the bubbly's cork and let the couple dance around trees and embark on their honeymoon!"
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Pckts - 12-08-2015
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RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Pckts - 12-15-2015
A nice comparison of Sub Adult Male Jaguar and a Sub Adult Male Lion
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RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - sanjay - 12-20-2015
Watch this video and see why Lions are most dangerous animal to deal with for circus master in a circus. These lions spoil the show. See the video from 03:05
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - sanjay - 12-20-2015
A tiger escape from circus during live performance. See it from 1:45
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - sanjay - 12-20-2015
Another video shows that you must understand your limit. Trainer almost died