(02-17-2015, 11:59 PM)'Amnon242' Wrote:

(02-17-2015, 11:52 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: 146 kg is a decent size for a Tom of 4 years of age, nothing special by any means but he could still put on another 50+kg of size in the next 4-6 years.

He is from the Masek Pride, so I will look up where they are inside the NCA.

  

50+ kg? Oh no...at this age he probably wont be any longer or taller...and he is already quite massive. Give him 20-30 kg max.

BTW I know about one amur tiger who is around 220 kg at the age of 2. According to you, he should be well over 300 kg in his prime :-)
Another example - I think you know the table with the data on growth of 3 bengal tigers (2 males, 1 female). The males were 200 kg at the age of 2...so again..they should hit 300 kg in their prime :-)
 

 

(02-18-2015, 07:15 PM)'chaos' Wrote: Thats odd, because I'm not feeling any sense of dread. Truth is certain people get very uncomfortable when anything positive
about lions is posted.(size, hunting potential, fighting prowess) Its entertaining. This is not intended as provocative in nature,
but a simple observation. Why is that? We are all adults, correct?

 

(02-18-2015, 08:09 PM)'GrizzlyClaws' Wrote: Weighing about 220kg at the age of 2 , he is absolutely huge, perhaps he has the potential to go even a bit further than 300kg.

Some non-obese captive Amurs that hit 400kg could be explained as the genetic throwback.

Those who don't have this trait are basically same as their wild counterparts.

 

(02-18-2015, 10:16 PM)'Amnon242' Wrote:

(02-18-2015, 07:15 PM)'chaos' Wrote: Thats odd, because I'm not feeling any sense of dread. Truth is certain people get very uncomfortable when anything positive
about lions is posted.(size, hunting potential, fighting prowess) Its entertaining. This is not intended as provocative in nature,
but a simple observation. Why is that? We are all adults, correct?


 

The same can be said in oposite way (towards lion fans). We all are somewhat biased (even though some of us perhaps do not realize that...and those who deny it, those who claim that they are "neutral" - those are IMO the most biased). We all are tiger or lion fans. We all are very sensitive when we see something that can be interpreted as an attack against our favorite cat. And we all very willingly belive to anything that flatters our favorite cat. We are the same.

 

(02-18-2015, 10:39 PM)'chaos' Wrote: I agree. Within reason. But, thats not the case with everyone. Some are a bit more - for a lack of a better term - over the top.
Hence, the "Are we not adults "?  

 

(02-18-2015, 10:30 PM)'Amnon242' Wrote:

(02-18-2015, 08:09 PM)'GrizzlyClaws' Wrote: Weighing about 220kg at the age of 2 , he is absolutely huge, perhaps he has the potential to go even a bit further than 300kg.

Some non-obese captive Amurs that hit 400kg could be explained as the genetic throwback.

Those who don't have this trait are basically same as their wild counterparts.


 

Im looking forward to see his growth in the future. BTW captive (amur, white bengal) tigers are usually around 100 kg in one year. But I know about one who was 140 kg in one year...

 

 

(02-18-2015, 11:03 PM)'Amnon242' Wrote:

(02-18-2015, 10:39 PM)'chaos' Wrote: I agree. Within reason. But, thats not the case with everyone. Some are a bit more - for a lack of a better term - over the top.
Hence, the "Are we not adults "?  


 

You may be right...but remember us back in the days of AVA flame wars :-)


 

 

(03-07-2015, 02:28 PM)'Amnon242' Wrote: In one of previous posts there is an info, that average weight of Ngorongoro females is 127 kg. Average weight of kruger females is 124,2 kg and average weight of kruger males is 187,5 kg (see post of guate in tiger extinction thread). So what could be the average weight of Ngorongoro males?


 

 

(03-09-2015, 01:44 AM)'Pckts' Wrote: No way to know for sure, but its probably safe to assume they are the same as any other Serengetti Lion averages.

 

(03-09-2015, 02:23 AM)'Amnon242' Wrote:

(03-09-2015, 01:44 AM)'Pckts' Wrote: No way to know for sure, but its probably safe to assume they are the same as any other Serengetti Lion averages.


 

No. They are around the size of kruger lions, probably somewhat bigger. Serengeti females are 104 kg.

 

 

(03-09-2015, 03:44 AM)'tigerluver' Wrote: 124.2 and 127 kg are statistically identical, one would need a very large amount of samples to say otherwise. Although, as the Kruger weights were adjusted, one could assume the raw weight from Kruger would be 135 kg-140 kg for females, making them larger than the Crater population in regard to the specific samples.