(04-23-2022, 11:45 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote: hello guate open this link   https://www.nfwf.org/sites/default/files...01-004.pdf   And read page no 47 of raghu journal , the 220-230 weight of madla is estimated weight for drug dose . its predarting weight , in a similar way they estimated one kanha sub-adult as 120kg and it turned out to be 180kg , panna tigers too had estimated predarting weight which is different from real weight , weight of madla is around 250kg as stated by chundawat in his book and he had clearly written in his journal that 220-230 weight is estimated for durg preparation.

(04-25-2022, 07:38 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(04-23-2022, 11:45 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote: hello guate open this link   https://www.nfwf.org/sites/default/files...01-004.pdf   And read page no 47 of raghu journal , the 220-230 weight of madla is estimated weight for drug dose . its predarting weight , in a similar way they estimated one kanha sub-adult as 120kg and it turned out to be 180kg , panna tigers too had estimated predarting weight which is different from real weight , weight of madla is around 250kg as stated by chundawat in his book and he had clearly written in his journal that 220-230 weight is estimated for durg preparation. 

Thank you, but that is just a preliminary report, do not show any weight. In that page that you say did mention that they made estimations about the body mass previous de darting and that is correct, but the weight of 220-230 kg is the real weight "adjusted". Now, check this document that was provided to me, here are the real estimations prior to the actual weighing event:yes but old male weight is 240 after* but in second capture its 250, and madla they have written only 250here , as in book its too written 250kg also , now here is the video of capture of madla  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX58LfNBpq0&t=2s  , it looks to me (i could be 100% wrong) he didn't weighted madla becoz he didn't had any weigh in equipment neither enough people to lift madla , you need 8-10 people to lift such heavy tiger , may be before darting he had madla 220-230kg estimate and after taking measurements he estimated madla 250kg(rough chest girth equation) . also madla neck girth a lot larger than modern panna tigers and sauraha male(261kg) , madla canines are larger than sauraha . he looks very longer in the video . tigers a lot avg built have weighted around 220. that 215kg corbett male looks tiny when u compare its lying body with madla . if its indeed 230kg empty then its okkkkk .....................

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Here you can see the estimated weight and the real weight in parentesis. Madla was estimated at 250 kg and did weighed that much with stomach content, but latter they substracter 20-30 kg and they made that calculation of 220-230 kg. Certainly it was a big male, and taking in count the amount of food intake actually measured from the other male (19 kg), the real weight of Madla was 230 kg empty, maybe a little more.

(04-26-2022, 08:57 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote: yes but old male weight is 240 after* but in second capture its 250, and madla they have written only 250here , as in book its too written 250kg also , now here is the video of capture of madla  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX58LfNBpq0&t=2s  , it looks to me (i could be 100% wrong) he didn't weighted madla becoz he didn't had any weigh in equipment neither enough people to lift madla , you need 8-10 people to lift such heavy tiger , may be before darting he had madla 220-230kg estimate and after taking measurements he estimated madla 250kg(rough chest girth equation) . also madla neck girth a lot larger than modern panna tigers and sauraha male(261kg) , madla canines are larger than sauraha . he looks very longer in the video . tigers a lot avg built have weighted around 220. that 215kg corbett male looks tiny when u compare its lying body with madla . if its indeed 230kg empty then its okkkkk .....................

(04-26-2022, 09:25 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(04-26-2022, 08:57 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote: yes but old male weight is 240 after* but in second capture its 250, and madla they have written only 250here , as in book its too written 250kg also , now here is the video of capture of madla  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX58LfNBpq0&t=2s  , it looks to me (i could be 100% wrong) he didn't weighted madla becoz he didn't had any weigh in equipment neither enough people to lift madla , you need 8-10 people to lift such heavy tiger , may be before darting he had madla 220-230kg estimate and after taking measurements he estimated madla 250kg(rough chest girth equation) . also madla neck girth a lot larger than modern panna tigers and sauraha male(261kg) , madla canines are larger than sauraha . he looks very longer in the video . tigers a lot avg built have weighted around 220. that 215kg corbett male looks tiny when u compare its lying body with madla . if its indeed 230kg empty then its okkkkk .....................

About the video, remember that they are not focusing the people/elephants/equipment out of the camera view, and is confirmed that the tigers from Panna were actually weighed. Check that only the weights in parentesis (*) are real weights, so that table only shows that in the second capture M91 was not weighed again, just estimated at 250 kg, based in its previous capture. 

The book that I think you are refering is the one of 2004 "Tiger The Ultimage Guide", in that case it mention the figure of 250 kg and as I said, the tiger did weighed that, but it included stomach content and that is why they estimated an intake between 20-30 kg for him, but based in the real amount recorded from male M91, the reliable weight for M125/Madla was probably 230 kg, based also in the fact that Dr Chundawat says that M91 was the biggest male of the two.

Neck girth and canine length is not related with the body mass, in fact remember that the known measurements of M105/Sauraha came from 1975, when he bottomed the scale of 500 lb. That means that he could be bigger in the next captures, specially in the last one in 1979. yes bro m91 240* written yes old m91 measured on scale  but in case of madla m125 captured only 250 is written here thats why i said , if 230*(230 in parenthesis ) written i wouldn't have said. 

(04-26-2022, 09:31 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote: yes bro m91 240* written yes old m91 measured on scale  but in case of madla m125 captured only 250 is written here thats why i said , if 230*(230 in parenthesis ) written i wouldn't have said. 

(01-13-2017, 05:43 AM)Pckts Wrote: Bheema from Kahna was 225kg at 2.5,
Confirmed by min and vijay.

Great job! hello can u tell me weight of tiger jai , a lot of newpapers wrote him as 240kg and 250kg while few people say it was 220kg . can u tell me actual data .

(04-26-2022, 10:48 PM)strongmanw7 Wrote:

(01-13-2017, 05:43 AM)Pckts Wrote: Bheema from Kahna was 225kg at 2.5,
Confirmed by min and vijay.

Great job! hello can u tell me weight of tiger jai , a lot of newpapers wrote him as 240kg and 250kg while few people say it was 220kg . can u tell me actual data .

(04-27-2022, 11:02 PM)LonePredator Wrote: @GuateGojira Can you tell me what has been the shortest tail length for a Tiger (particularly Bengal if possible) and what was the head-body length of that particular Tiger.

(04-28-2022, 01:32 AM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(04-27-2022, 11:02 PM)LonePredator Wrote: @GuateGojira Can you tell me what has been the shortest tail length for a Tiger (particularly Bengal if possible) and what was the head-body length of that particular Tiger.

The shortest tail recorded for a male Bengal tiger came from a specimen of 269.3 cm in total length and the tail was of 76.2 cm, taken "between pegs" (Pocock, 1939). For females, the shortes tail recorded is of 79 cm, and came from two tigresses from Cooch Behar, with total length of 222 and 250 cm respectively, adjusted to be "between pegs" (Cooch Behar, 1908).

As far I remember, the shortest tail for a male tiger was of 50.5 cm and came from a Sumatran male tiger (Sody, 1949). The shortest tail for a female tiger is of 68 cm and came from a specimen from Sumatra (Sody, 1949).

(04-28-2022, 05:51 PM)Khan85 Wrote:

(04-28-2022, 01:32 AM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(04-27-2022, 11:02 PM)LonePredator Wrote: @GuateGojira Can you tell me what has been the shortest tail length for a Tiger (particularly Bengal if possible) and what was the head-body length of that particular Tiger.

The shortest tail recorded for a male Bengal tiger came from a specimen of 269.3 cm in total length and the tail was of 76.2 cm, taken "between pegs" (Pocock, 1939). For females, the shortes tail recorded is of 79 cm, and came from two tigresses from Cooch Behar, with total length of 222 and 250 cm respectively, adjusted to be "between pegs" (Cooch Behar, 1908).

As far I remember, the shortest tail for a male tiger was of 50.5 cm and came from a Sumatran male tiger (Sody, 1949). The shortest tail for a female tiger is of 68 cm and came from a specimen from Sumatra (Sody, 1949).

Case of Dunbar Brander's giant tiger is also interesting. The tiger's total length was 9ft 11in (302.3 cm) but the tail consituted only 81.3 cm of this, rest 221 cm being head-body length.

Btw can you share the source for Kraft's 600 lb (272 kg) tiger from Nepal? Thank you

(04-28-2022, 05:51 PM)Khan85 Wrote: Btw can you share the source for Kraft's 600 lb (272 kg) tiger from Nepal? Thank you