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RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 11-16-2019
The Mbiri males made a brief return a couple of nights ago before they yet again headed back south, even with the roars of the River pride males resounding through the night in the heart of the Mbiris territory
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mohawk4 - 11-17-2019
I think that Xikukutsu males sired by Ross males
Black Dam Male for me the most impressive lion in the bigger Kruger area
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Tr1x24 - 11-17-2019
(11-17-2019, 02:50 PM)Mohawk4 Wrote: I think that Xikukutsu males sired by Ross males
Black Dam Male for me the most impressive lion in the bigger Kruger area
Yes, it seems that Xikukutsu males where sired by Old Ross males, not Giraffe/Avoca males, my bad.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 11-18-2019
As far as I know Avoca/Giraffe took over in 2012 and they are fathers of dominant in SS Avocas and young Xikukutsu males.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mohawk4 - 11-18-2019
I think not the old Ross but the Ross Fabio jr and Tyson jr are the fathers of Xikukutsu
https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-lions-of-timbavati?page=7
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 11-18-2019
How old are Xikukutsu exactly?
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mohawk4 - 11-18-2019
I dont know exactly but a guy that i trust his knowledge told me that Xikukutsu males were sired by the Ross males when the Ross males controlled the Avoca pride back in 2015.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 11-18-2019
As far as I know Ross males became dominant when they chassed single Mabande male in early 2016, I do not know however of what pride. Anyway also on first page (https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-lions-of-timbavati) you can see news from Shindzela Camp about new cubs in Avoca pride sired by Avoca/Giraffe males so 4 years ago which seems adjunct to Xikukuts males age (I do not know when exactly they were born but they do not look to be younger tthan 4 yeas)
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Tr1x24 - 11-18-2019
I read somewhere that Xikukutsu males where born in 2015, thats too early to be sired by Ross males because in 2015 Ross males where nomads around 4 yrs old, they take Avoca pride from Trilogy males in mid 2016, by that Xikukutsu males would be 3 and a half yrs old, they are much older than that.
Old Ross male controled Ross and Giraffe pride until mid 2015,when Trilogy males takeover, did he control Avoca pride too? If not, its most likely that they where sired by Giraffe/Avoca males.
What a mystery this became. Even on facebook/yt people are diveded between Old Ross, Ross and Giraffe/Avoca males to be fathers.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mohawk4 - 11-19-2019
Shindzela Camp claims that the fathers of Xikukutsu are the Ross males.....
Mystery....
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 11-19-2019
I just wen through old Shindzela posts and if we take December 2015 (also ad that lion pregnncy least 100-114 days) as true date of born of Xikukutsu males then Avoca/Giraffe males are the fathers as by the late 2015 they were undisputed dominant males of Avoca pride.
Avoca/Giraffe in Shindzela
September 2015
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October 2015
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November 2015
Ross males first apear
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but Avoca/Giraffe are as well are still there and they look like tanks
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Avoca pride (Orange Eye/Mohawk Nothen Avoca on left? :o
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One male heavy injured
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 11-19-2019
December 2015
Ross male with Avoca (I presume) female BTW acording to Shindzela Ross males were born somewhen around December 2010
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Those I think are Trillogy males (not sure tho, that is bad that Shindzela post only pictures without description
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Female with cubs (Xikukutsu?)
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January 2016
Trillogy males
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Ross males
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Avoca pride
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - Tr1x24 - 11-19-2019
Well, lets hope somebody can confirm 100%. They certaintly look more like young Ross males. But if they are indeed sired by Ross males they are younger then we think.
And holy molly, those Giraffe/Avoca males where beasts, i know about 1 Giraffe male still dominant over Black Dam pride, 1 old Avoca male still alive in Manyeleti, Avoca Brutus died last year, but what happen to the rest of them??
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 11-19-2019
"And holy molly, those Giraffe/Avoca males where beasts"
Yes, they were always described as very big males.
"Avoca Brutus died last year, but what happen to the rest of them"
Dunno, but I guess they meet end similar to Majingilanes - just die out of starvation when they were getting older. Anyway as far as I know they never have been force ousted by other coalition.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 11-19-2019
Young River male
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