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RE: Size comparisons - Pckts - 05-06-2020
Here you can Han next to Eddie.
He's a shorter Lion and a bit overweight but still robust.
RE: Size comparisons - Luipaard - 05-09-2020
Persian leopard and Syrian brown bear
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RE: Size comparisons - Maritimus77 - 05-11-2020
The first comparison I'd like to share is between the biggest of the extant brown bears and the smallest of the extant rhinos: A Kodiak Bear and a Sumatran Rhinoceros.
The Kodiak Bear in this comparison has a shoulder height of ~133cm whereas the Sumatran Rhinoceros stands ~140cm tall. The data for the Kodiak bear was taken from "The Guinness Book of Animal Facts and Feats" (Wood, Gerald) and additionally reviewed by a comparative growth study on Alaskan brown bears called "Morphometric Characteristics of Brown Bears on the Central Alaska Peninsula" (Glenn). The data for the Sumatran rhino was taken from "Walker's Mammals of the World, Volume 2 (Walker, Nowalk). The reference height for the human silhouette in my comparison is ~183cm (6ft).
Maybe some of you could give their feedback on it, that would be very nice!
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RE: Size comparisons - Rishi - 05-12-2020
(05-11-2020, 10:59 PM)Maritimus77 Wrote: Maybe some of you could give their feedback on it, that would be very nice!
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Make the human silhouette white... And maybe add a scale to background grid.
RE: Size comparisons - Maritimus77 - 05-12-2020
@Rishi
Thank you for the input, Rishi, I've adjusted the comparison and it definitely looks much better now.
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RE: Size comparisons - Shadow - 05-12-2020
(05-12-2020, 03:32 PM)Maritimus77 Wrote: @Rishi
Thank you for the input, Rishi, I've adjusted the comparison and it definitely looks much better now.
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Just for curiosity, how do you define average sized Kodiak bear? That looks like a very big male, when looking where you have put shoulder height. They aren´t all 150 cm or more there, but big ones can be. I just wonder if there really is good information about averages from Kodiak bears. Often is mentioned how big the biggest can be though.
RE: Size comparisons - Shadow - 05-12-2020
(05-12-2020, 09:07 PM)Shadow Wrote:(05-12-2020, 03:32 PM)Maritimus77 Wrote: @Rishi
Thank you for the input, Rishi, I've adjusted the comparison and it definitely looks much better now.
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Just for curiosity, how do you define average sized Kodiak bear? That looks like a very big male, when looking where you have put shoulder height. They aren´t all 150 cm or more there, but big ones can be. I just wonder if there really is good information about averages from Kodiak bears. Often is mentioned how big the biggest can be though.
I noticed, that you had given some information earlier. But could you take a photo from the text you used or is there some link to see it. I´m curious to see to what study is based "average Kodiak male bear". There isn´t too many studies about these bears done so it would be nice to see original source for information or is it just some estimation.
RE: Size comparisons - Maritimus77 - 05-12-2020
@Shadow
Thank you for the question, Shadow!
I first came across an average number for Kodiak bear measurements in "The Guinness Book of Animal Facts and Feats" (Wood, Gerald) and they stated the average total length of a Kodiak bear as 244cm and the average shoulder height as 132cm:
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I then compared these figures with measurements taken from Alaska Pensinula brown bears in a scientific work called "Morphometric Characteristics of Brown Bears on the Central Alaska Peninsula" (Glenn) and the measurements were roughly the same, just slightly less (I'll attach the whole work below):
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https://www.bearbiology.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Glenn_Vol_4.pdf
RE: Size comparisons - Shadow - 05-13-2020
(05-12-2020, 10:57 PM)Maritimus77 Wrote: @Shadow
Thank you for the question, Shadow!
I first came across an average number for Kodiak bear measurements in "The Guinness Book of Animal Facts and Feats" (Wood, Gerald) and they stated the average total length of a Kodiak bear as 244cm and the average shoulder height as 132cm:
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I then compared these figures with measurements taken from Alaska Pensinula brown bears in a scientific work called "Morphometric Characteristics of Brown Bears on the Central Alaska Peninsula" (Glenn) and the measurements were roughly the same, just slightly less (I'll attach the whole work below):
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https://www.bearbiology.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Glenn_Vol_4.pdf
Thank you for sharing that study. And there was something interesting about shoulder height as I thought, that there most probably is. A good example why it´s always so good to see what is written in the study itself. I look it closer later, I think that I have read it before but long time ago.
Anyway look at this: " height at shoulder - distance from superior angle of the scapula to the tip of the longest claw". That is on the first page. So when they give that shoulder height for instance to the bigget bear (152 cm), in reality when it stands on ground, that shoulder height is easily 20 cm less around 130 cm. And of course average shoulder height of male bears is clearly less, when that was the biggest. I have to say, that I don´t get it at all, that why they include claws to that measurement in that study. It is understandable, that bears won´t stand there to be measured as domestic pets like dogs, but still especially with bears that can give very wrong impression, when longest claws alone can be over 10 cm long. They do measure in same way other animals, but with for instance lions and tigers they won´t include claws to that measurement.
Another thing in that study, which is good to notice, when looking measurements is, that body length was over curves, not between pegs.
What comes to Guinness, I have to say that I don´t keep it as the most reliable source what comes to animals. They have too many times published vague and even false information. So when they give averages etc. I´m always interested to know if they are able to give sources to justify their claims.
RE: Size comparisons - Astroboy - 05-16-2020
(11-05-2015, 11:24 PM)GuateGojira Wrote: Ok, there is no problem, I would be glad to put my old and new images here.
By the way, if someone have special comparisons that would like to see, just ask me, and if I have the data (real measurements and images from side view), you will have it. :P
Edit: I will post the first images tonight, so, keep an eye in this new topic.
May you please do a size comparison of the great apes OR even just the subspecies of the gorillas please GuateGojira, I would be very thankful
RE: Size comparisons - Rishi - 05-16-2020
RE: Size comparisons - Astroboy - 05-18-2020
Mod edit: Guate do it if you value your life.
(11-05-2015, 11:24 PM)@GuateGojira Wrote: Ok, there is no problem, I would be glad to put my old and new images here.
By the way, if someone have special comparisons that would like to see, just ask me, and if I have the data (real measurements and images from side view), you will have it.
Edit: I will post the first images tonight, so, keep an eye in this new topic.
I really appreciate all of the other size comparisons that you've made which i think are all amazing but the ones i'd like to request is all te great apes. I know this comparison would be so cool.
If that is too much then just eastern lowland gorilla, western lowland gorilla and mountain gorilla in a size comparison please, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks.
RE: Size comparisons - Astroboy - 05-19-2020
(05-16-2020, 10:03 PM)Rishi Wrote:
I have noticed that you've sent me a private message but I can't access it on this thread for some reason but do you mind telling me what the message said?
RE: Size comparisons - Rishi - 05-19-2020
(05-19-2020, 09:28 AM)Astroboy Wrote: I have noticed that you've sent me a private message but I can't access it on this thread for some reason but do you mind telling me what the message said?
Right.
New members have to go to a waiting period, before which their posts will only show after being approved by one of the Mods... There's no need to make the same post multiple times. Your private messaging privilege will also be activated after that.
For now keep posting until you've crossed the required number.
RE: Size comparisons - DinoFan83 - 05-19-2020
USNM 6183 Tyrannosaurus (99 cm femur, 17 years of age, likely the smallest adult, based on LACM 23845) vs MUCPv-95 Giganotosaurus (13.12 meters and 9.09 tonnes). Skeletals by Franoys (Tyrannosaurus) and GetAwayTrike (Giganotosaurus).
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Note that this is basically the same as comparing Sue and the Giganotosaurus holotype, except it's reversed.