(03-29-2024, 08:53 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:

(03-29-2024, 05:16 AM)Mwk85 Wrote: Limping Monwana male and Hercules male encounter. Apparently the Monwana male joined the Giraffe Pride on a kill and things got heated. Not 100% positive on the outcome but it was said by someone else that Hercules didn't launch a full scale (paraphrasing) attack on him.

it would seem that Hercules or the pride may have inded beaten up on Monwana.    poor boys has really been striggling of late  

(03-29-2024, 08:53 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: it would seem that Hercules or the pride may have inded beaten up on Monwana.    poor boys has really been striggling of late  









Jeez, I hate seeing him like this. I was pulling for him. Damn.

(03-24-2024, 02:37 PM)lionuk Wrote: The Mbiri are very sadistic and very brutal males. They went overboard with that poor Guernsey male
smh

(03-29-2024, 08:53 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:

(03-29-2024, 05:16 AM)Mwk85 Wrote: Limping Monwana male and Hercules male encounter. Apparently the Monwana male joined the Giraffe Pride on a kill and things got heated. Not 100% positive on the outcome but it was said by someone else that Hercules didn't launch a full scale (paraphrasing) attack on him.

it would seem that Hercules or the pride may have inded beaten up on Monwana.    poor boys has really been striggling of late  

(04-01-2024, 01:32 AM)Cath2020 Wrote:

(03-24-2024, 02:37 PM)lionuk Wrote: The Mbiri are very sadistic and very brutal males. They went overboard with that poor Guernsey male
smh

The more time has gone by, the more I wholeheartedly agree.  Overboard and above and beyond a la Kinky Tail kind of death.  But, unlike Kinky Tail and his brother, he and his partner never killed a single cub or lioness, as far as I know.  A simple, stern warning, could have sufficed, maybe?  But what they did??!!  I don't think Guernsey even realized just who he was dealing with, and that the Mbiris are just as blood-thirsty as ever the Mapogos were, being built from the same mind-set. (The sole difference is that there are only 2 Mbiris, thank goodness!)  All were raised by aggressive males, that only ruled with an iron-fist. (or paw, in a lion's case)  It's killings such as these that make me rethink and wonder if there are good/not so good characters in animals....like for people, in a sense, as animals also vary greatly in character....makes you wonder a lot.

(04-01-2024, 02:50 AM)BA0701 Wrote: I find the brutality of man to be far worse than any creature, simply because we do know right from wrong, good from evil, and in spite of possessing that knowledge we are still capable of immense brutality.

(04-01-2024, 01:32 AM)Cath2020 Wrote:

(03-24-2024, 02:37 PM)lionuk Wrote: The Mbiri are very sadistic and very brutal males. They went overboard with that poor Guernsey male
smh

The more time has gone by, the more I wholeheartedly agree.  Overboard and above and beyond a la Kinky Tail kind of death.  But, unlike Kinky Tail and his brother, he and his partner never killed a single cub or lioness, as far as I know.  A simple, stern warning, could have sufficed, maybe?  But what they did??!!  I don't think Guernsey even realized just who he was dealing with, and that the Mbiris are just as blood-thirsty as ever the Mapogos were, being built from the same mind-set. (The sole difference is that there are only 2 Mbiris, thank goodness!)  All were raised by aggressive males, that only ruled with an iron-fist. (or paw, in a lion's case)  It's killings such as these that make me rethink and wonder if there are good/not so good characters in animals....like for people, in a sense, as animals also vary greatly in character....makes you wonder a lot.

(04-02-2024, 04:40 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: Oh but not quite.  Nature is brutal and the more we see it as it is, the more we appreciate just how removed we are from it.  At least in my opinion.  This is what separates us from animals....wild or otherwise.   What I witnessed with these forces of nature makes me all the more realize the brutality of it, the primitiveness of it, yet this has a certain appeal to some, such as to me, if I'm honest. 

What the Mbiris did was not normal behavior, even by lion standards.  Maybe it's becoming more common in the KNP area due to how we have forced these animals to evolved.  But is it really the way we want them to evolve?  I don't think we see such behavior a lot in other parks.  It's not par for the course that lions will kill and then consume their opponents alive, eating the whole body, dragging the corpse around for days....engaging in overzealous cannibalism with such relish.  Even regarding prey, they usually don't consume them alive.  There is a pointed calculation in their behavior, beyond just killing ones opponent, which they could have merely done.  I won't go so far as to say diabolical or evil, because I don't believe wild animals live by our rules, obviously.  

If you can calmly watch what was done to the Guernsey Male and not question such behavior whatsoever, then I wonder more than what goes on behind the minds of some animals, ever changing in the wild....   

There is no judgement as if a human committed such acts, because if we go that far, then, according to the 'rules of the wild' (which is heavily influenced by humans) the GM would have to also be blamed for the mistakes he made, which he did, else he wouldn't have been so brutally taken advantaged of.  However, there is compassion, and nobody is going to fault me for feeling that towards him and having thoughts in my mind that what was done to him was over-the-top, however long or short-term these thoughts last.