(02-02-2023, 06:58 PM)Tonpa Wrote: I think its a picture taken through the fence, there's no lions on Guernsey game reserve 

They were on Thornybush this morning

Help me Brother 

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(02-03-2023, 12:10 AM)SMK350 Wrote:

(02-02-2023, 06:58 PM)Tonpa Wrote: I think its a picture taken through the fence, there's no lions on Guernsey game reserve 

They were on Thornybush this morning

Help me Brother 

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There's no lions in Guernsey game reserve? There are 3 females and 1 male and 1 leopard who jumped the fence a few months ago? I remember how the Black Dam males and the big dark maned male (father of the Guernsey male) used to get into epic fights along the fence line. I need to find that sighting but he was constantly chasing the Black Dams from the fence.

(02-02-2023, 06:58 PM)Tonpa Wrote: I think its a picture taken through the fence, there's no lions on Guernsey game reserve 

They were on Thornybush this morning

Help me Brother 

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(02-03-2023, 12:17 AM)Tonpa Wrote:

(02-03-2023, 12:10 AM)SMK350 Wrote:

(02-02-2023, 06:58 PM)Tonpa Wrote: I think its a picture taken through the fence, there's no lions on Guernsey game reserve 

They were on Thornybush this morning

Help me Brother 

*This image is copyright of its original author

There's no lions in Guernsey game reserve? There are 3 females and 1 male and 1 leopard who jumped the fence a few months ago? I remember how the Black Dam males and the big dark maned male (father of the Guernsey male) used to get into epic fights along the fence line. I need to find that sighting but he was constantly chasing the Black Dams from the fence.

That's Kapama game reserve, Guernsey is a reserve right next to them both with no elephants or lions.

From the Kingfisher creek site

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(02-03-2023, 05:45 AM)SMK350 Wrote: The 4 Black Dam males in Thornybush are territorial males over the Guernsey females and the Avoca breakaways. The are the dominant males over all of Southern Thornybush.

Edit: it also seems like a lot of history of the 6 black dams may not be known which is why you consider them unimpactful but that’s why I think diversifying to coalitions outside sabi sands may be helpful. Their reemergence in Thornybush completely changed the fate of several prides in that area, including their own natal pride which may never be able to return to that area. You can talk to Thornybush rangers about how this impacted their reserve. They ended the life of the Monwana male, the last of the Trilogy offspring with that pride. They’re attempted take over of the rest of the Avocas is one of the more interesting dynamics being played out at the moment.

(02-03-2023, 07:11 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So the 6 Black Dam Males Father is the Giraffe Male the youngest of the in total 7 old Avoca/Giraffe Coalition

(02-02-2023, 01:50 PM)Potato Wrote: Last week I posted some shots of this rare white lion.  Here are two pics of him getting into a scuffle with his father.  The father is letting the son know that it is about time he leaves the pride and strikes out on his own. Male lions are usually forced out by the time they are three years old.  Our guide told us that these fights had become more frequent, so the time was nearing.    The second image is not really sharp, but I like the action and the composition.  I did not have the proper settings to capture this sudden action as it was a bright sunny day and the lions were actually pretty mellow until this happened.  Ngala, South Africa.

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(02-03-2023, 05:45 AM)SMK350 Wrote: The 4 Black Dam males in Thornybush are territorial males over the Guernsey females and the Avoca breakaways. The are the dominant males over all of Southern Thornybush.

Edit: it also seems like a lot of history of the 6 black dams may not be known which is why you consider them unimpactful but that’s why I think diversifying to coalitions outside sabi sands may be helpful. Their reemergence in Thornybush completely changed the fate of several prides in that area, including their own natal pride which may never be able to return to that area. You can talk to Thornybush rangers about how this impacted their reserve. They ended the life of the Monwana male, the last of the Trilogy offspring with that pride. They’re attempted take over of the rest of the Avocas is one of the more interesting dynamics being played out at the moment.

(02-04-2023, 03:25 AM)BA0701 Wrote:

(02-03-2023, 05:45 AM)SMK350 Wrote: The 4 Black Dam males in Thornybush are territorial males over the Guernsey females and the Avoca breakaways. The are the dominant males over all of Southern Thornybush.

Edit: it also seems like a lot of history of the 6 black dams may not be known which is why you consider them unimpactful but that’s why I think diversifying to coalitions outside sabi sands may be helpful. Their reemergence in Thornybush completely changed the fate of several prides in that area, including their own natal pride which may never be able to return to that area. You can talk to Thornybush rangers about how this impacted their reserve. They ended the life of the Monwana male, the last of the Trilogy offspring with that pride. They’re attempted take over of the rest of the Avocas is one of the more interesting dynamics being played out at the moment.

You explained your reasons for your post in the Avocas thread, but can you advise which of the Monwana males was killed by the 4 BDMs in Thornybush?

(02-04-2023, 03:48 AM)SMK350 Wrote:

(02-04-2023, 03:25 AM)BA0701 Wrote:

(02-03-2023, 05:45 AM)SMK350 Wrote: The 4 Black Dam males in Thornybush are territorial males over the Guernsey females and the Avoca breakaways. The are the dominant males over all of Southern Thornybush.

Edit: it also seems like a lot of history of the 6 black dams may not be known which is why you consider them unimpactful but that’s why I think diversifying to coalitions outside sabi sands may be helpful. Their reemergence in Thornybush completely changed the fate of several prides in that area, including their own natal pride which may never be able to return to that area. You can talk to Thornybush rangers about how this impacted their reserve. They ended the life of the Monwana male, the last of the Trilogy offspring with that pride. They’re attempted take over of the rest of the Avocas is one of the more interesting dynamics being played out at the moment.

You explained your reasons for your post in the Avocas thread, but can you advise which of the Monwana males was killed by the 4 BDMs in Thornybush?

I don’t know how you guys embed these links but you can read it here: 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQcukmKRYM/?igshid=MWI4MTIyMDE=


He was attempting to claim the Avoca pride with his partner but the BDMs caught and killed him and almost caught the Guernesy Male too. They have been trying to track him down for months but he keeps giving them the slip. It’s basically the thornybush version of the western sector and Guernesy male is their Scorro.

(02-04-2023, 04:29 AM)BA0701 Wrote:

(02-04-2023, 03:48 AM)SMK350 Wrote:

(02-04-2023, 03:25 AM)BA0701 Wrote:

(02-03-2023, 05:45 AM)SMK350 Wrote: The 4 Black Dam males in Thornybush are territorial males over the Guernsey females and the Avoca breakaways. The are the dominant males over all of Southern Thornybush.

Edit: it also seems like a lot of history of the 6 black dams may not be known which is why you consider them unimpactful but that’s why I think diversifying to coalitions outside sabi sands may be helpful. Their reemergence in Thornybush completely changed the fate of several prides in that area, including their own natal pride which may never be able to return to that area. You can talk to Thornybush rangers about how this impacted their reserve. They ended the life of the Monwana male, the last of the Trilogy offspring with that pride. They’re attempted take over of the rest of the Avocas is one of the more interesting dynamics being played out at the moment.

You explained your reasons for your post in the Avocas thread, but can you advise which of the Monwana males was killed by the 4 BDMs in Thornybush?

I don’t know how you guys embed these links but you can read it here: 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQcukmKRYM/?igshid=MWI4MTIyMDE=


He was attempting to claim the Avoca pride with his partner but the BDMs caught and killed him and almost caught the Guernesy Male too. They have been trying to track him down for months but he keeps giving them the slip. It’s basically the thornybush version of the western sector and Guernesy male is their Scorro.

Thank you for sharing this. I would have to assume that he is referring to the limping Monwana male, as he was who was with the Gurnsey male, but last I recall he was seen alone some time ago, after the two of them had gotten separated. So, this news, which is almost 4 months old, is surprising to me.

As for the sharing of Instagram links, using the following template, typically allows them images/videos to be embedded, but for some unknown reason it doesn't seem to always work, as is the case with this link, which I was unable to get to work, even using the "shared" link from Instagram itself.

Embed Instagram links use the following:

[insta]**paste link here**[/insta]

(02-04-2023, 06:27 AM)Gavskrr Wrote:

(02-04-2023, 04:29 AM)BA0701 Wrote:

(02-04-2023, 03:48 AM)SMK350 Wrote:

(02-04-2023, 03:25 AM)BA0701 Wrote:

(02-03-2023, 05:45 AM)SMK350 Wrote: The 4 Black Dam males in Thornybush are territorial males over the Guernsey females and the Avoca breakaways. The are the dominant males over all of Southern Thornybush.

Edit: it also seems like a lot of history of the 6 black dams may not be known which is why you consider them unimpactful but that’s why I think diversifying to coalitions outside sabi sands may be helpful. Their reemergence in Thornybush completely changed the fate of several prides in that area, including their own natal pride which may never be able to return to that area. You can talk to Thornybush rangers about how this impacted their reserve. They ended the life of the Monwana male, the last of the Trilogy offspring with that pride. They’re attempted take over of the rest of the Avocas is one of the more interesting dynamics being played out at the moment.

You explained your reasons for your post in the Avocas thread, but can you advise which of the Monwana males was killed by the 4 BDMs in Thornybush?

I don’t know how you guys embed these links but you can read it here: 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQcukmKRYM/?igshid=MWI4MTIyMDE=


He was attempting to claim the Avoca pride with his partner but the BDMs caught and killed him and almost caught the Guernesy Male too. They have been trying to track him down for months but he keeps giving them the slip. It’s basically the thornybush version of the western sector and Guernesy male is their Scorro.

Thank you for sharing this. I would have to assume that he is referring to the limping Monwana male, as he was who was with the Gurnsey male, but last I recall he was seen alone some time ago, after the two of them had gotten separated. So, this news, which is almost 4 months old, is surprising to me.

As for the sharing of Instagram links, using the following template, typically allows them images/videos to be embedded, but for some unknown reason it doesn't seem to always work, as is the case with this link, which I was unable to get to work, even using the "shared" link from Instagram itself.

Embed Instagram links use the following:

[insta]**paste link here**[/insta]

This monwana found dead is the youngest, son of the males in the trilogy if I remember correctly, The lame is still alive around as far as I know as well as Guernesy, the male monwana limp was with a young male of the giraffe pride but has recently been Seen alone so I don't know what happened to the other young man