(09-25-2022, 06:27 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: The White Young Birmingham Male and at least one Tawny brother seen by rockfig lodge last night.

(09-27-2022, 08:07 PM)sik94 Wrote:

(09-25-2022, 06:27 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: The White Young Birmingham Male and at least one Tawny brother seen by rockfig lodge last night.

Is it just me or is that white male massive? saw a video of him walking along side one of his brothers and he was noticeably bigger in every way be it height or bulkiness.

(09-27-2022, 08:21 PM)Potato Wrote:

(09-27-2022, 08:07 PM)sik94 Wrote:

(09-25-2022, 06:27 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: The White Young Birmingham Male and at least one Tawny brother seen by rockfig lodge last night.

Is it just me or is that white male massive? saw a video of him walking along side one of his brothers and he was noticeably bigger in every way be it height or bulkiness.

He is indeed significantly bigger than his brothers, through how he would compare to different males might be a very different story.

(09-27-2022, 08:07 PM)sik94 Wrote:

(09-25-2022, 06:27 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: The White Young Birmingham Male and at least one Tawny brother seen by rockfig lodge last night.

Is it just me or is that white male massive? saw a video of him walking along side one of his brothers and he was noticeably bigger in every way be it height or bulkiness.

(09-27-2022, 08:41 PM)BA0701 Wrote: It's odd how that happens. When BYM was young, and still with the pride, around the time his injury occurred, there was a video of him walking with the pride, and he was noticeably bigger than the adult females he was walking beside, giving the impression he might become a very large male. Fast forward to today, and it seems TYM is the larger of the two, and I previously never saw him as being overly large. So, your point is well taken my friend!

(09-28-2022, 12:19 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(09-27-2022, 08:41 PM)BA0701 Wrote: It's odd how that happens. When BYM was young, and still with the pride, around the time his injury occurred, there was a video of him walking with the pride, and he was noticeably bigger than the adult females he was walking beside, giving the impression he might become a very large male. Fast forward to today, and it seems TYM is the larger of the two, and I previously never saw him as being overly large. So, your point is well taken my friend!

BYM is noticeable bigger then Torchwood, both in height and lenght.

(09-28-2022, 12:26 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Maybe it is his bulkiness then, he just looks heavier, more stout in the pics and vids I have seen of them. There was a clear difference in size, with BYM being noticeably larger in the video of their first interaction, as they walked parallel to one another when it was reported that BYM (who was with his siblings at the time, including the white male) had chased TYM off. Then in the video of TYM killing the buffalo (the one where BYM did not seem to really know what to do), TYM appeared to me to be the heavier bulkier of the two, same goes for when they were chasing those hyenas.

(09-27-2022, 08:07 PM)sik94 Wrote: Is it just me or is that white male massive? saw a video of him walking along side one of his brothers and he was noticeably bigger in every way be it height or bulkiness.

(09-27-2022, 08:21 PM)Potato Wrote: He is indeed significantly bigger than his brothers, through how he would compare to different males might be a very different story.

(09-28-2022, 01:04 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(09-28-2022, 12:26 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Maybe it is his bulkiness then, he just looks heavier, more stout in the pics and vids I have seen of them. There was a clear difference in size, with BYM being noticeably larger in the video of their first interaction, as they walked parallel to one another when it was reported that BYM (who was with his siblings at the time, including the white male) had chased TYM off. Then in the video of TYM killing the buffalo (the one where BYM did not seem to really know what to do), TYM appeared to me to be the heavier bulkier of the two, same goes for when they were chasing those hyenas.

Yea, Torchwood males looks more bulkier, and has bigger mane, which brings a lot to the size, but BYM is bigger in height and lenght, even rangers from Timbavati said that.

(09-28-2022, 01:10 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(09-27-2022, 08:07 PM)sik94 Wrote: Is it just me or is that white male massive? saw a video of him walking along side one of his brothers and he was noticeably bigger in every way be it height or bulkiness.

(09-27-2022, 08:21 PM)Potato Wrote: He is indeed significantly bigger than his brothers, through how he would compare to different males might be a very different story.

Not sure from where are you getting this that white male is much/significantly bigger then his brothers?

From what i saw, that not the case, atleast not noticeable or worth pointing out, to me they look similar in size, white male might be a bit bulkier in build. 

In fact, in the past years, when they where subs, 1 of his brothers was bigger, i remember it on WE broadcast when they walked near each other. 

Even on this picture from last year, although not side by side, and white male is a bit behind, his brother still looks a bit bigger and longer on body:

*This image is copyright of its original author

Unless white male overgrown them recently, which i doubt, as on that last video of them with Ross males, 2 brothers where walking with Ross males and where pretty much their size.

(09-28-2022, 04:10 AM)Mabingilane Wrote: @BA0701

There is another younger tawny male who was born in April 2020.  That is the BYM's Sister's son. 

The other two tawny males (white male's littermate & cousin) are the same age roughly as the white male

(09-28-2022, 01:04 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: even rangers from Timbavati said that

(09-28-2022, 05:18 PM)Potato Wrote: From what I saw Birmingham white male he was significantly bigger than his brothers. Also I remember one of the Ngala guides saying there is quite a significent gap in size between white male and his brothers.