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RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Shadow - 10-26-2018
(10-26-2018, 10:59 PM)Pckts Wrote:Yes, I read that article. It is clear, that bears have to be removed there and if nothing else helps, shot. But this guy should have stayed calm and think before doing anything. Too many accidents and dangerous situations are caused simply by fact, that many people act first and think then, when opposite order in actions would lead to much better results to everyone. This guy was in the house, when he noticed bears, no need to rush out there like a madman :) Everyone should know that mamas in every species defend their cubs furiously if feeling threatened. If I say what I really think, it is, that in this video I saw plain stupidity.(10-26-2018, 10:54 PM)Shadow Wrote:I agree, he should of handled it differently but he did say this(10-26-2018, 10:19 PM)Pckts Wrote: Watch this Terrifying Video of a Grizzly Charging a BC Man and his DogI wonder if that guy had really any real understanding about bears. Charging there like that to bear with cubs..... sometimes when there is no instant danger it is good idea to call to officials and experts. At least in my country they come immediately to place where something like this is going on. Safer to people and animals to let the experts handle this kind of situations.
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/8xjy85/watch-this-terrifying-video-of-a-grizzly-charging-a-bc-man-and-his-dog?fbclid=IwAR2A9FNvh8B3kxAum2DcP4RyBjlfNAD7ZzD9nn9Osr3DPow2J0qi-aVWMZo&utm_campaign=global&utm_source=vicefbca
"What are your choices? You leave a bear in the yard who thinks it owns your yard … and then your kids go out there?" Michalchuk told the national broadcaster. "By leaving them on the property, you're playing Russian roulette, and I'm not doing that with my kids or my family."
So Michalchuk got all dressed up in his nicest, brightest orange vest, grabbed his shotgun, loaded ‘er up with the good buckshot, slipped on some crocs and went out to confront the bear—here is where the video (which was shot by his wife and has over 200,000 views) picks up. He shot once in the air and, in the write up underneath the video, said that the bear then charged him. So he ran back into the house and the sow and her cubs started to leave the yard.
“I took that as a sign of submission, so I went outside again and when she got 65 yards away, I shot in the air again to keep pushing her along,” reads the write up. “After that shot, the sow turned around and looked at me.”
After he slammed the door he said she turned and sped off with her cubs. Michalchuk said that he tracked the bear and it wasn’t bleeding. “I know she’ll be sore,” he wrote, “but she’ll now think twice about approaching people.”
RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Shadow - 10-28-2018
Here video about bear hunting where situation develops to more exciting than usually... ps. this video also saved life of this female bear. When cameraman sent this video to his friends who were also there hunting (with official permission) bear, they noticed bear cub in this video. So all the other hunters were informed quickly not to shoot this bear. Shooting female bear with cubs is illegal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzSlKNhtepo
Ps. Cameraman tells, that he didn´t need to wash his pants after situation, who knows.... He tells, that bear was after dog when suddenly turned to this man and when there was only half an meter between man and bear, bear turned back towards the dog.
RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Wolverine - 10-28-2018
(10-18-2018, 04:08 AM)Shadow Wrote: I put here one photo shortly. Dimensions can be and probably are not perfect, this is like fast sketch, but what should be quite right is how tall these animals are. I wrote earlier about it, that something like this would be nice to see made by an expert. But for instance size difference between biggest bears and gorilla might be more understandable with this kind of comparison.
Kodiak here is 10 feet, other one is brown bear scaled to 9 feet, then tiger to 8 feet and gorilla, as those usually are, about 6 feet. I think, that biggest gorilla ever has been 6 feet 6 inches.
But what do you guys think, who see this. I will take photo off soon, so badly done
The idea is good, but comparative images are probably incorrect. For the Kodiak bear is used record height (3 m) while for gorilla is used only average height (6 feet). If you want to make correct proportions you should increase the height of gorilla to 6,6 feet (maximal) or you should decrease the height of Kodiak bear to its average height. For all animals should be used or average or record heights.
More importantly the tiger from the right looks like 3-3,5 times more massive than the gorilla which is impossible. The average weight of male Bengal tiger is 210-220 kg is only 30-40% more than the average weight of adult male gorilla (160 kg). If we assume that gorilla in the image weights 160 kg according your images the tiger should weight about 480-540 kg....
And better dont derail the brown bear tread with such a laughable stuff, there is a special tread for proportions called "Size comparisons".
RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Shadow - 10-28-2018
(10-28-2018, 05:06 AM)Wolverine Wrote:(10-18-2018, 04:08 AM)Shadow Wrote: I put here one photo shortly. Dimensions can be and probably are not perfect, this is like fast sketch, but what should be quite right is how tall these animals are. I wrote earlier about it, that something like this would be nice to see made by an expert. But for instance size difference between biggest bears and gorilla might be more understandable with this kind of comparison.
Kodiak here is 10 feet, other one is brown bear scaled to 9 feet, then tiger to 8 feet and gorilla, as those usually are, about 6 feet. I think, that biggest gorilla ever has been 6 feet 6 inches.
But what do you guys think, who see this. I will take photo off soon, so badly done
The idea is good, but comparative images are probably incorrect. For the Kodiak bear is used record height (3 m) while for gorilla is used only average height (6 feet). If you want to make correct proportions you should increase the height of gorilla to 6,6 feet (maximal) or you should decrease the height of Kodiak bear to its average height. For all animals should be used or average or record heights.
More importantly the tiger from the right looks like 3-3,5 times more massive than the gorilla which is impossible. The average weight of male Bengal tiger is 210-220 kg is only 30-40% more than the average weight of adult male gorilla (160 kg). If we assume that gorilla in the image weights 160 kg according your images the tiger should weight about 480-540 kg....
And better dont derail the brown bear tread with such a laughable stuff, there is a special tread for proportions called "Size comparisons".
Yes I know, that that picture isn´t in scale in all the ways, but as I wrote, I am asking more about idea to see different kind of comparisons, which opens up in different ways size difference of animals. What comes to gorilla, I think, that usually even 6 feet is a big gorilla. Kodiaks are known to be 3 meters more often than gorillas 6 foot 6 inches as far as can be understood from different sources, but of course 3 meters is pretty much as big as those can get. But I think, that there are a lot more 3 meter tall Kodiaks though. But to say as it is, I by accident had that gorilla there saved to that size and I was too lazy to do it again :) After all idea was to have some discussion, not to put there absolute truth in the first place.
Ridiculous maybe in a way, but still there are bears that tall, gorillas that tall when big ones and tigers are often said to be 8 feet when standing on 2 legs. I find this kind of comparison quite interesting though, but quite difficult to find. I am hoping to find some day a good one. Or maybe I have to find more measurements and do a better one :) Anyway it is for me quite interesting to see size comparisons with more dimensions, than always that old same from side. This kind of angle might make many understand better how scary some animals can be in real situation for each others and also real size difference, which can be in a way hidden in "old style" comparisons from side view when animals on 4 legs.. For instance gorilla can look quite big, but it is actually quite small when there is a really big bear dwarfing a gorilla like here can be seen. But nice to hear some opinions :)
RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - brotherbear - 10-28-2018
When I first saw the picture yesterday, I was thinking more like 6 feet for the gorilla, 7 feet for the tiger, 8 feet for the grizzly, and 10 feet for the Kodiak bear. But I did not wish to complain because I really love to see good comparison picture and, for the most part, this one is great. ( post # 518 ).
RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Shadow - 10-28-2018
(10-28-2018, 01:11 PM)brotherbear Wrote: When I first saw the picture yesterday, I was thinking more like 6 feet for the gorilla, 7 feet for the tiger, 8 feet for the grizzly, and 10 feet for the Kodiak bear. But I did not wish to complain because I really love to see good comparison picture and, for the most part, this one is great. ( post # 518 ).
Heh, I made that fully aware, that it is far from perfect, but sometimes it is good to be somewhat inaccurate to make some discussion
Provoking a little bit even. Still this kind of "standing" comparison gives in some cases a very different kind of visualization about animal sizes. It is so much easier to understand how terrific for instance a bear can appear to some other animal when it stands up and roars. When someone say, that this animal is 3 feet taller than another, it is some numbers. But when it is actually visualized by putting them in comparison side to side, then it is so different thing and suddenly many people understand what is difference between two animals, which both are in mental images big. Suddenly one is still big, but another one is huge.
RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - brotherbear - 10-28-2018
I'm not complaining. It's really a very good look at these animals - incredible all.
RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Shadow - 10-28-2018
(10-28-2018, 02:50 PM)brotherbear Wrote: I'm not complaining. It's really a very good look at these animals - incredible all.
Yes I noticed, just explaining a little bit about my thoughts. Some day when better time and more time to check different measurements and dimensions, maybe better one. I am interested to see that kind of comparison where measurements give realistic visualization also overall body sizes, not just how tall. Then again those are all photos of adult animals, just scaled to certain tallness. But so, that photo is scaled to all directions at same time to avoid some odd looking animals stretched only to one direction. I mean, that bear would be otherwise quite skinny
So difficult to say how much exactly there is wrong in that picture.
RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Tshokwane - 10-30-2018
Credits to Jim Harrison.
A really big and battlescarred Griz, spring 2016.
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RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - brotherbear - 10-30-2018
The awesome grizzly boar pictured in post #536 lives in Yellowstone. A handsome old warrior.
RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Tshokwane - 10-31-2018
Credits to KAR Photography.
Watching a grizzly in its natural environment is an amazing experience and seeing one moving about fall foliage is tough to beat. We have been obsessed with watching and being around bears ever since our first close encounter with a grizzly years ago in Yellowstone. Seeing a grizzly changes the landscape. They command your attention and respect. Simply seeing their tracks makes changes everything. The surroundings become more wild. They are surely a symbol of true wilderness.
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RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Tshokwane - 10-31-2018
Credits to Thomas Fortune.
While hiking in the Tetons a few weeks ago my wife and I heard a rustling sound along the side of the trail but didn't see anything. About 30 seconds later we heard the same sound, but now saw this fellow rooting in the brush about 100 feet away. We backed away slowly and to safety, while the bear went about his business. We had our bear spray at the ready but didn't need to use it.
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RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Rage2277 - 11-01-2018
RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Tshokwane - 11-03-2018
Credits to Jason P. Ayers.
This is the largest bear that I have personally seen in the park. I spotted him near Norris Junction. He was a couple hundred yards out and at first glance I thought it was a bison.
I would estimate him to be in the 600, maybe 700lb range. What was even more impressive was that this pic was taken in May so I can only imagine how big he’ll get before hibernating.
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RE: Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos) - Shadow - 11-07-2018
(11-03-2018, 06:41 AM)Tshokwane Wrote: Credits to Jason P. Ayers.
This is the largest bear that I have personally seen in the park. I spotted him near Norris Junction. He was a couple hundred yards out and at first glance I thought it was a bison.
I would estimate him to be in the 600, maybe 700lb range. What was even more impressive was that this pic was taken in May so I can only imagine how big he’ll get before hibernating.
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Brown bears in Yellowstone seems to be quite close to same sizes as those are in Finland. To give some comparison, in Finland two biggest known bears in wild have been a bear weighed in October 2006, while putting a radio collar to it, that was 822 lbs (373 kg). Another one was shot in August 2011 and it was 796 lbs (361 kg). When looking at your photo, that bear looks like to be robust and in good condition. I think, that 600-700 lbs is very possible as you estimate.