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RE: Lions of Timbavati - vinodkumarn - 10-26-2017
Credits: Tintswalo Lodge
Another Young Avocas making statement here.. feeling bad for Skorro.
Safari Update
Lion dynamics in the central Manyeleti Game Reserve have been quite interesting with new lions making their presence felt!
The Thanda Impi males had a devastating set back when the dominant male ’Scorro’ whent missing for about 9 days leaving his (Mbiri) pride and coalition member ‘Sizanani’on their own. The mbiri lionesses and their cubs were mute during this time and no lions have been vocalising, to keep their current location a secret to rival males. Another three tiny little cubs were also seen hidden away making the total count of cubs in the Mbiri pride 16. Sizanani’s’ state has weakened dramatically and we don’t think he will live to see the end of the month with his current condition deteriorating dramatically. The dominant male's absence made it extremely difficult for his brother to eat and Sizanani wasn't found close to the females during this time.
Scorro was eventually found, but badly bashed up! He was definitely cornered by more then one male hence the artificial lacerations and bite marks all over his body. He was limping badly due to severe injuries to his back left leg. We speculated that he might have been fighting with the 3 younger Avoca males that was found in the Eastern areas of the central Manyeleti Game Reserve. He made his way back towards the thickets close to Manor House and we haven’t seen him or Sizanani for the last 2 days.
The Nharhu pride did split up a while back, again, possibly because of the pressure that the three younger Avoca males have been putting on the lions in the area. Six of the sub adults remained in the Manyeleti but the other seven members were missing. Two weeks ago, an update came through that confirmed the location of the rest of the Nharhu pride! Miraculously, the three Birmingham lionesses and 4 sub adults were found in the North Western Sabi Sands Game Reserve! We thought that this was the final writing on the wall for the Nharu pride as we knew them, but they made it back and was found together on their home turf recently! The only problem was that one of the female sub adults was missing. They were found on multiple occasions during the last week in the central Manyeleti where they also managed to take down a buffalo and fed well. The last time they were seen was at the foot hills of a granite outcrop in the North Eastern areas of the Manyeleti Game Reserve heading towards the Kruger National Park.
Thanda Impi male 'Sizanani' keeping a close eye on the Mbiri pride. This was the first time in a while that he was seen close to the lionesses. At first glance, the lionesses thought he was a rival male until closer investigation they learnt otherwise.
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One of the young Avoca males at a buffalo they've killed.
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Young Avoca males.
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One of the young Avoca males that had fresh lacerations after a fight that we speculate was with the Thanda Impi male 'Scorro'
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A Northern Matimba male that was seen close to our Eastern boundary with Kruger National Park. This veteran of a male was in very bad shape and didn't present much of a visual.
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Thanda Impi male Sizanani.
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Young Red Road male made his way into the Manyeleti, close to the Eastern boundaries of Kruger.
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - NCAT33 - 10-26-2017
Are these Avoca males different from the ones in Sabi Sands? Are they related?
RE: Lions of Timbavati - cpf27 - 10-26-2017
They are younger brothers of the 2 Avoca from Sabi Sands. All of them sons of the Avoca/Giraffe coalition from Timbavati.
This is sad for me. I like the Thanda Impi lion males, specially Skorro. Poor guys, I hope they and the Mbiri cubs can survive someway.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - vinodkumarn - 10-26-2017
(10-26-2017, 03:31 AM)NCAT33 Wrote: Are these Avoca males different from the ones in Sabi Sands? Are they related?
Their younger brothers, roughly 4 months younger (3 of them). Ousted from natal pride little later than the 2 in sabi sands
Each of these coalitions went in different directions
RE: Lions of Timbavati - vinodkumarn - 10-26-2017
(10-26-2017, 04:09 AM)cpf27 Wrote: They are younger brothers of the 2 Avoca from Sabi Sands. All of them sons of the Avoca/Giraffe coalition from Timbavati.
This is sad for me. I like the Thanda Impi lion males, specially Skorro. Poor guys, I hope they and the Mbiri cubs can survive someway.
I too like Skorro very much
A smart dare devil!
RE: Lions of Timbavati - singo - 10-26-2017
Very sad to hear that news, because Thanda Impi is my favourite coalition
I hope Skorro, Sizanani, and all of the Mbiri and Nharhu pride can survive..
So, this three Avoca young males is fathered by old Avocas and Giraffes Coalition?
RE: Lions of Timbavati - T Rabbit - 10-26-2017
God damn, sizanani and northern matimba are in very bad condition. Close to the death. Very sad to the old guard of manyeleti lions. Thanda imp wow he is really trying to keep his territory, pride and cubs by his own. What a monster. He is his prime but 3 males is too much. If sizanani would be little better condition they could make it cause skorro is very strong.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Tshokwane - 10-26-2017
Credits to Marius Zeilinga - Pondoro Game Lodge.
SAFARI UPDATE:
The 3 Machaton males were found with all 7 of the Kudyela lionesses with a young giraffe kill, by the size of their bellies it was clear that the 3 males took charge of the carcass and left very little to none for the females. Two males were fighting over the last pieces of meat whilst the 3rd relaxed with the females.
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - Chris - 10-31-2017
@Tshokwane doy you think the 2 avocas in sabi sands will join there 3 brothers or will the 3 brothers go and join the 2 brothers in the sabi sands?
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Tshokwane - 10-31-2017
(10-31-2017, 01:32 AM)Chris Wrote: doy you think the 2 avocas in sabi sands will join there 3 brothers or will the 3 brothers go and join the 2 brothers in the sabi sands?
No, I don't.
Despite being brothers or half-brothers, I'm not sure if they're of the same litter and even if they were, the bonds between each other are already established and strenghten by the hardships.
Add to that the distance, and it's something that's not likely to happen.
In fact, I could see that lone Avoca male joining up with the Tsalala males if he doesn't go together with his brother down in the SS.
But both sets of Avocas? No.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - T Rabbit - 10-31-2017
Of course that the 3 avocas will not join with the 2 sabi sands avocas. The 3 are very close to conquer a lot of prides in central manyeleti and will not give up about all oof it to only meet with their brother in ss. Females are more important than male friendship.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - sundarbans - 11-01-2017
(10-31-2017, 02:23 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:(10-31-2017, 01:32 AM)Chris Wrote: doy you think the 2 avocas in sabi sands will join there 3 brothers or will the 3 brothers go and join the 2 brothers in the sabi sands?
No, I don't.
Despite being brothers or half-brothers, I'm not sure if they're of the same litter and even if they were, the bonds between each other are already established and strenghten by the hardships.
Add to that the distance, and it's something that's not likely to happen.
In fact, I could see that lone Avoca male joining up with the Tsalala males if he doesn't go together with his brother down in the SS.
But both sets of Avocas? No.
Where did the the lone Avoca male come from and how is he related to the 2 SS Avocas and the 3 Manyeleti Avocas?
RE: Lions of Timbavati - sik94 - 11-01-2017
(11-01-2017, 03:14 AM)sundarbans Wrote:The lone avoca is one of the 2 SS avocas, the 2 SS avocas and the 3 Manyeleti Avocas are brothers that came from the same pride.(10-31-2017, 02:23 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:(10-31-2017, 01:32 AM)Chris Wrote: doy you think the 2 avocas in sabi sands will join there 3 brothers or will the 3 brothers go and join the 2 brothers in the sabi sands?
No, I don't.
Despite being brothers or half-brothers, I'm not sure if they're of the same litter and even if they were, the bonds between each other are already established and strenghten by the hardships.
Add to that the distance, and it's something that's not likely to happen.
In fact, I could see that lone Avoca male joining up with the Tsalala males if he doesn't go together with his brother down in the SS.
But both sets of Avocas? No.
Where did the the lone Avoca male come from and how is he related to the 2 SS Avocas and the 3 Manyeleti Avocas?
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Chris - 11-01-2017
How are the mohalebetsi males doing? @Tshokwane
RE: Lions of Timbavati - sik94 - 11-01-2017
(11-01-2017, 05:33 AM)Chris Wrote: How are the mohalebetsi males doing? @Tshokwane
They have been ousted by the 4 machaton males and are down to 6 members I think.