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RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - Pckts - 01-22-2017
No venom for monitors and I believe komodos don't actually have venom but bacteria in their saliva.
I would assume that most would be predators would try to avoid the dragons Jaws, not all would be so lucky but it does look like a long excruciating death so even if the dragon was successful in biting a lion let's say, it probably would still have to give its life.
RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - chaos - 01-22-2017
(01-22-2017, 01:14 AM)Pckts Wrote: No venom for monitors and I believe komodos don't actually have venom but bacteria in their saliva.
I would assume that most would be predators would try to avoid the dragons Jaws, not all would be so lucky but it does look like a long excruciating death so even if the dragon was successful in biting a lion let's say, it probably would still have to give its life.
I do believe Komodos are venomous. Its recently come to light. Ill look into it a in a bit, but I do recall reading about it. Their saliva
is also teeming with infectious bacteria
RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - brotherbear - 01-22-2017
It's true. Back in the Old AVA, I had argued that there were no poisonous monitor lizards. I was proven wrong as new discoveries were being made.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090518172650.htm
RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - Spalea - 01-22-2017
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About #33: the Komodo dragon's saliva is even his main weapon. When we see a Komodo dragon hunting a buffalo a mere bite is enough to kill the bovine... After several hours during which the lizard just follows his prey which is going to agonize and dying.
And last precision: the komodo dragon's bite force is weak, very weak. But 100% deadly.
RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - Bronco - 01-22-2017
(01-22-2017, 01:14 AM)Pckts Wrote: so even if the dragon was successful in biting a lion let's say, it probably would still have to give its life.
The huge bite radius, sharp teeth, and critical wounds, coupled with the blood-thinning venom, mean that the already large lizard can take down much larger prey by attacking quickly, administering fatal wounds, and then simply waiting for the prey to bleed out. It’s a method that minimizes contact with the prey and lowers any chances of the lizard getting hurt. It’s called “inertia killing,” and it’s now thought that perhaps it’s a method that large, carnivorous dinosaurs also used.
http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/01/15/komodo-dragons-dont-kill-the-way-you-might-think-they-do/
If dinosaur used this technique than I don't see why this method should fail in Africa.
Now, in one documentary I saw a lioness being bitten by a cobra, the poor thing struggled & was in pain but eventually recovered after 2-3 days, the point here is if a cobra could manage to bit a lion, than a dragon can bite as well. All a dragon has to do is a lay a bite & run like a goddamn bast***. Like sharks even dragons are drawn towards blood, so all the gathered dragons or the pack that is stalking on the struggling lion from a safe distance will now pounce on it & finish it off.
Dragon use the inertia eating/killing method only when the prey is big, against smaller prey they use the ambush hunting method & that too in a pack.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513601/Incredible-moment-pair-massive-Komodo-dragons-catch-kill-unsuspecting-goat-Indonesia.html
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besides, dragon can seriously injure a boar with just a whip from its tail.
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RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - Apollo - 01-22-2017
In 2009, researchers published further evidence demonstrating Komodo dragons possess a venomous bite. MRI scans of a preserved skull showed the presence of two glands in the lower jaw. The researchers extracted one of these glands from the head of a dragon in the Singapore Zoological Gardens, and found it secreted several different toxic proteins. The known functions of these proteins include inhibition of blood clotting, lowering of blood pressure, muscle paralysis, and the induction of hypothermia, leading to shock and loss of consciousness in envenomated prey.
Here is a study on Komodo dragon venom, download the full study in PDF format from the link below
http://m.pnas.org/content/106/22/8969.abstract
RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - brotherbear - 01-22-2017
I would have to agree with pockets; posts #29 and #31; in Africa the Komodo dragon would be dominated by the lion. A bite from the monitor lizard would kill a lion but not quickly enough to save himself. Once the poisonous/infectious bite is learned and known, or sensed, the lizard would be lucky to achieve a bite on the big cat.
RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - Spalea - 01-22-2017
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About #37: quite agree, the Komodo dragon could not be the new apex predator of an ecosystem like the african savannah. Absolutely not. With the lions and the spotted hyenas the seat is firmly occupied...
RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - Tshokwane - 01-25-2017
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There won't be any more contemplations in this regard.
RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - Vinay - 01-25-2017
If you have right to delete posts/ban doesn't mean what ever you said becomes true
btw i simply said his NEW President Donald Trump words on Paid idiotic MEDIA.
RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - Tshokwane - 01-25-2017
And I agree.
But that is completely irrelevant to the topic.
And also, you were calling wolves and some other animals "stupid"...
Is that also funny?
Because I don't think it is. If you feel like joking, then please do so somewhere else. This isn't the place to do so.
RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - Vinay - 01-25-2017
(01-25-2017, 08:48 PM)Tshokwane Wrote: And I agree.
But that is completely irrelevant to the topic.
And also, you were calling wolves and some other animals "stupid"...
Is that also funny?
Because I don't think it is. If you feel like joking, then please do so somewhere else. This isn't the place to do so.
Stupid,idiotic,paid,presstitutes,filth etc what ever curse words i used on western MEDIA not animals .... that doesn't mean Indian/Asian media is great they all are sh**.
Now come to the point ''600 ASIANS KILLED by Asian elephants but western media highlights 10 dead by wolves/sharks but not Asians'' (animals) IS 200% RELEVANT to the post if you at-least READ the title!!!
this isn't the place to show your INTELLECTUAL moral superiority.
PS: Trump is a good man .... please at-least read the title if you are not joking here
RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - sanjay - 01-25-2017
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RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - brotherbear - 01-25-2017
Bill Gates is a businessman; not a scientist. The purpose of the chart is to educate on the dangers of mosquitoes. It is not a poster of the "top ten most dangerous animals" but merely several randomly picked to make his point.
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RE: Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America? - Pckts - 01-25-2017
Another creature that is dangerous to humans not on that list is actually Cows, they actually kill more people a year than sharks.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/cows-are-deadlier-than-you-ever-knew-1690950434
Same with Deer and Horses as well believe it or not.
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/11-animals-more-likely-to-kill-you-than-sharks