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RE: Young Jock Males - Tr1x24 - 05-07-2022
(05-07-2022, 12:18 AM)239Pu Wrote: I dunno but he looks significantly smaller than the other two
One of his brothers is very tall, other is around his height, maybe also slighly taller.
But he is more bulkier and has biggest and darkest mane of the 3, so he looks most impressive, altrough all 3 are beasts.
RE: Young Jock Males - Gavskrr - 05-09-2022
Sighting of the 3 Berg en Dal/young jocks males together, some side by side photos compared to sizes (24- april- 2022)
"Incredible if brief sighting of these three boys at first light. First one seemed fixated on something in the distance, but later joined his brothers before disappearing into the thickets. Many years ago we saw the "old" Jock boys so seeing the new kids on the block was extremely rewarding"
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RE: Young Jock Males - DARK MANE - 05-10-2022
1/ 3 young jock male.
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RE: Young Jock Males - Mdz123 - 05-28-2022
Throback to 1 of old Jocks
RE: Young Jock Males - Gavskrr - 07-08-2022
Berg en Dal Male, his mane is quite full, with those scars he is a handsome guy
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RE: Young Jock Males - DARK MANE - 02-14-2023
Matjulu pride young male, son of jock berg en daal ( young jocks).
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RE: Young Jock Males - DARK MANE - 03-31-2023
2/3 young jock males.
After defeating mjejane males last year, these 3 boys are currently ruling most of the southern knp.
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RE: Young Jock Males - 239Pu - 12-04-2023
would it be possible to replace the first post of this thread with this? much more information
https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-coalitions-of-kruger-national-park?pid=99969#pid99969
RE: Young Jock Males - 239Pu - 12-04-2023
Stolsnek males
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RE: Young Jock Males - Lipstick2 - 12-04-2023
(12-04-2023, 07:40 AM)239Pu Wrote: Stolsnek males
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Could we know more about these Stolsnek males (Young Jock's fathers)?
Who were they and where they came from? Did they take over Jock pride from the Mlambane males who took over from the 2 Old Jock males before that? (2 old Jocks were the fathers of the 5 impressive Jock males from 2009)
RE: Young Jock Males - Tr1x24 - 12-04-2023
(12-04-2023, 08:45 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: Who were they and where they came from?
Not sure from where they came, they where originaly 5 males in 2014, by 2015, 1 male died/disappeared.
(12-04-2023, 08:45 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: Did they take over Jock pride from the Mlambane males who took over from the 2 Old Jock males before that? (2 old Jocks were the fathers of the 5 impressive Jock males from 2009)
Yes, they takeover from 2 remaining Mlambane males prob around early to mid 2014. 4 Mlambane males (fathers of Snip Tail Mpondo and his brother) takeover from 2 Old Jocks in 2011 (fathers of 5 Jocks), killing 1 of them .
5 Eastern Bank males overthrown 4 Stolsnek males by mid 2016, killing 2 of them, remaining 2 went nomadic.
Not sure if EBMs ever controled Jock pride, as in 2018, 3 Thomson males where controling Jock pride, EBMs where more towards Biyamiti area.
By early to mid 2020, both EBMs and Thomsons lost that whole area, Thomsons prob from Mpondos from north, while EBMs prob by Mjejanes from southeast.
RE: Young Jock Males - Lipstick2 - 12-04-2023
(12-04-2023, 03:59 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:Thanks for the detailed information!(12-04-2023, 08:45 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: Who were they and where they came from?
Not sure from where they came, they where originaly 5 males in 2014, by 2015, 1 male died/disappeared.
(12-04-2023, 08:45 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: Did they take over Jock pride from the Mlambane males who took over from the 2 Old Jock males before that? (2 old Jocks were the fathers of the 5 impressive Jock males from 2009)
Yes, they takeover from 2 remaining Mlambane males prob around early to mid 2014. 4 Mlambane males (fathers of Snip Tail Mpondo and his brother) takeover from 2 Old Jocks in 2011 (fathers of 5 Jocks), killing 1 of them .
5 Eastern Bank males overthrown 4 Stolsnek males by mid 2016, killing 2 of them, remaining 2 went nomadic.
Not sure if EBMs ever controled Jock pride, as in 2018, 3 Thomson males where controling Jock pride, EBMs where more towards Biyamiti area.
By early to mid 2020, both EBMs and Thomsons lost that whole area, Thomsons prob from Mpondos from north, while EBMs prob by Mjejanes from southeast.
You've piqued my curiosity with this, so one more question - just out of the box - if you are allowed: What happened with other 2/4 Mlambane males while they were ruled Jock pride from their take over (from Old Jocks) to Stolsnek males' take over, when there were only 2 remaining males? Did they just simply disappeared during the time?
RE: Young Jock Males - Tr1x24 - 12-04-2023
(12-04-2023, 05:56 PM)Lipstick2 Wrote: You've piqued my curiosity with this, so one more question - just out of the box - if you are allowed: What happened with other 2/4 Mlambane males while they were ruled Jock pride from their take over (from Old Jocks) to Stolsnek males' take over, when there were only 2 remaining males? Did they just simply disappeared during the time?
Jock stated that 2/4 where killed by rival males who tried to overtake their territory.
RE: Young Jock Males - BA0701 - 12-08-2023
(12-04-2023, 07:34 AM)239Pu Wrote: would it be possible to replace the first post of this thread with this? much more information
https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-coalitions-of-kruger-national-park?pid=99969#pid99969
I won't replace the OP in this thread, but I will gladly assist @Potato in getting that post moved to this thread if he wishes to have that done. I will leave that decision up to him.
RE: Young Jock Males - Tr1x24 - 11-27-2024
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