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RE: Lions of Timbavati - lionuk - 10-12-2021
(10-12-2021, 05:31 PM)Timbavati Wrote: He was chased into Ngala side. The Black dam males crossed over Ngala following a herd of buffalo. Interesting times aheadI must say it's good to see a new picture of Scorro after a few weeks, though it seems he is still alone. Hopefully he stays safe in the meantime and that he will find himself a new partner or two soon. He needs a coalition to survive.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 10-13-2021
Throwback on Black Dam male
"It is a massive male Lion, the biggest I have seen apart from some other back in 2010"
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Slayerd - 10-13-2021
(10-13-2021, 02:20 AM)Potato Wrote: Throwback on Black Dam male2010? Old Birminghams, Ximpoko, Black Dams father. There was a lot of large lions in the Timbavati back than.
"It is a massive male Lion, the biggest I have seen apart from some other back in 2010"
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 10-13-2021
(10-13-2021, 03:21 AM)Slayerd Wrote:(10-13-2021, 02:20 AM)Potato Wrote: Throwback on Black Dam male2010? Old Birminghams, Ximpoko, Black Dams father. There was a lot of large lions in the Timbavati back than.
"It is a massive male Lion, the biggest I have seen apart from some other back in 2010"
It is not necessarily from Timbavati. AT the comment section you can see that guide seen plenty of lions throu out the years.
" I have seen most of the male Lions throughout the entire Greater Kruger. I would say that the Moria male from Kalama would be equal, the two Satara males, the Birmingham males, Charleston males were massive.
I once saw a dude on the S28 in 2020, he was at the time in control of the Vurhami pride, do not know him by name but a massive male.
LOL and then Casper is just special, seen him a few times, he is special??"
" Well, when I started guiding in Thornybush back in 2014 we had 3 Males on the property, The other two at the time had really nice manes, but their bodies weren't as big. When we opened or fence with Kruger National park in early 2017, a lot of males came in and out but none of them were as big as the Black Dam male, the Giraffe male, however, was a descent-sized male. I must say that the Charleston males in the southern parts of the Sand were just as big. They were big boys."
" Yes indeed I got to see them (note: Matimbas) and the Birhnigham males in the Northern Sands as well as for the Avoca males, Mapoza Males. I still love the Vurhami pride, they are awesome as well as the Nkuhuma pride."
" thanks for the good question. I reckon the Nhenha Birmingham was bigger than the Matimbas, at the time I last saw them, back in 2017. The Matimbas all had very good genes, similar in stature, only saw them going out of their prime."
"I reckon this Black Dam male was bigger than the BBoys. But the BBoys were more ruthless in nature and attitude"
"and yes the Giraffe male was a good looking male as well, same with the mapogos, only saw them once way back, they were really scary dudes!"
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Slayerd - 10-13-2021
(10-13-2021, 03:35 AM)Potato Wrote:Oh thought he was talking about the Timbavati. Wow this dude has seen a lot of lions. Interesting hearing his takes on the sizes.(10-13-2021, 03:21 AM)Slayerd Wrote:(10-13-2021, 02:20 AM)Potato Wrote: Throwback on Black Dam male2010? Old Birminghams, Ximpoko, Black Dams father. There was a lot of large lions in the Timbavati back than.
"It is a massive male Lion, the biggest I have seen apart from some other back in 2010"
It is not necessarily from Timbavati. AT the comment section you can see that guide seen plenty of lions throu out the years.
" I have seen most of the male Lions throughout the entire Greater Kruger. I would say that the Moria male from Kalama would be equal, the two Satara males, the Birmingham males, Charleston males were massive.
I once saw a dude on the S28 in 2020, he was at the time in control of the Vurhami pride, do not know him by name but a massive male.
LOL and then Casper is just special, seen him a few times, he is special??"
" Well, when I started guiding in Thornybush back in 2014 we had 3 Males on the property, The other two at the time had really nice manes, but their bodies weren't as big. When we opened or fence with Kruger National park in early 2017, a lot of males came in and out but none of them were as big as the Black Dam male, the Giraffe male, however, was a descent-sized male. I must say that the Charleston males in the southern parts of the Sand were just as big. They were big boys."
" Yes indeed I got to see them (note: Matimbas) and the Birhnigham males in the Northern Sands as well as for the Avoca males, Mapoza Males. I still love the Vurhami pride, they are awesome as well as the Nkuhuma pride."
" thanks for the good question. I reckon the Nhenha Birmingham was bigger than the Matimbas, at the time I last saw them, back in 2017. The Matimbas all had very good genes, similar in stature, only saw them going out of their prime."
"I reckon this Black Dam male was bigger than the BBoys. But the BBoys were more ruthless in nature and attitude"
"and yes the Giraffe male was a good looking male as well, same with the mapogos, only saw them once way back, they were really scary dudes!"
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Mdz123 - 10-13-2021
Dreadlocks Mapogo was said to be the largest among the coalition, any sources that compares him to other lions?
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 10-13-2021
(10-13-2021, 04:46 AM)Mdz123 Wrote: Dreadlocks Mapogo was said to be the largest among the coalition, any sources that compares him to other lions?
Rob the Ranger said that Selati #1 was bigger than the Mapogos and Majingilanes were bigger than Selati #1. On the other hand James tyrrel from Londolozi said Kruger males were definitelly bigger than Majingilanes and one of the Sabi Sabi guides said that the 2 last Mapogos (Mak and PB) were larger than Kruger males. So it is quite hard to get around all those estimations.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 10-13-2021
Two of the young Kudyela males were found yesterday in a very playful mood, their playfulness gave us the perfect photographic opportunities.
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - Duco Ndona - 10-13-2021
Nearly every male lion is at one point said to be lion in the reserve. So it just means they are average sized.
Without a measurement under sedation at the same point of life. Its nearly impossible to know.
Its also a rather pointless discusion IMHO.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 10-13-2021
(10-13-2021, 01:26 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Without a measurement under sedation at the same point of life. Its nearly impossible to know.Yup
(10-13-2021, 01:26 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Nearly every male lion is at one point said to be lion in the reserve. So it just means they are average sized.Well... guide look at lions through the prism of other lions the know and have seen so it is normal that from one guide some lion individual will be big and for other guide same lion might not look as impressive as he has seen even significantly bigger individual(s). Also Mala Mala ragners at Mala Mala live mentioned while talking about lion size that it is difficult to judge ions and leopards size as their shape changes so dynamicly depending of how much they eat at the direct peroid of time at you can see some individual at and point and think "wow, he is so big" and you can see same individual another time and you might think "he is not that big". That is why I always value opinions of guides which worked with direct lions for longer peroid of time over opinions of guides and photographers which seen direct lions like one or twice.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - lionuk - 10-13-2021
Black Dam Male
Photo credit: Johan Smalman
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - lionuk - 10-13-2021
In my opinion, that BDM looks different from the others, such an interesting looking face.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - T I N O - 10-13-2021
The Timbavati male and the Black dam male in Thornybush
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - T I N O - 10-13-2021
The smaller-Maned Mbiri male a couple of days ago seen in the east of Ngala Tented Camp
The bigger-maned Mbiri male was a little bit further north east with 12 members of the Skorro pride
Photo credits: Roy Glasspool
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - T I N O - 10-13-2021
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Expressing his dominance and communicating his whereabouts on