(04-18-2021, 04:06 PM)Potato Wrote: Some lion action and some possible changes in the near future. The young Giraffe male was chased of by the Hercules Male and he settled with some of the Giraffe pride lionesses. Also saw the Avova pride. Looked like the lion prides walked into each other during the night and Avoca pride put some distance between them and the males.

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(04-18-2021, 05:13 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(04-18-2021, 04:06 PM)Potato Wrote: Some lion action and some possible changes in the near future. The young Giraffe male was chased of by the Hercules Male and he settled with some of the Giraffe pride lionesses. Also saw the Avova pride. Looked like the lion prides walked into each other during the night and Avoca pride put some distance between them and the males.

Dont understand..

Hercules and Sumatra with Giraffe pride? Where are Monwanas? Or is his Giraffe (subadults) breakeaway gruop which is not with Monwanas?

(04-18-2021, 06:01 PM)Potato Wrote: I am not sure, but I do not think there are two groups of Giraffe pride. There was a split when the Monwanas were takingover, I do not think they remained split tho. It seems Monwanas are minding their own bussines further north for now and the Giraffe pride probably will return north as well duo to Sumatra/Hercules males presence at Shindzela.

(04-18-2021, 06:20 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(04-18-2021, 06:01 PM)Potato Wrote: I am not sure, but I do not think there are two groups of Giraffe pride. There was a split when the Monwanas were takingover, I do not think they remained split tho. It seems Monwanas are minding their own bussines further north for now and the Giraffe pride probably will return north as well duo to Sumatra/Hercules males presence at Shindzela.

You sure theres not 2 Giraffe gruops? Because i never seen pictures of Monwanas with these subadults, only with few older females and further north.. 

From his description it looks like Sumatra and Hercules hang out with Giraffe pride as they where lying with them and encounter Avoca pride together..

There where 4 Giraffe lionesses and young male.. Does anyone know how many Giraffe pride has members in total?

(04-18-2021, 06:20 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: You sure theres not 2 Giraffe gruops? Because i never seen pictures of Monwanas with these subadults, only with few older females and further north.. 

(04-18-2021, 07:11 PM)Potato Wrote: I am not 100% sure. It is fully ussual for the Giraffe pride tho to move around Kambaku Lodge, at times showing themself at Shindzela and other surrounding arenas. Recently one of the Monwana males was seen beating up young Giraffe male further north in Klaserie

(04-18-2021, 07:14 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(04-18-2021, 07:11 PM)Potato Wrote: I am not 100% sure. It is fully ussual for the Giraffe pride tho to move around Kambaku Lodge, at times showing themself at Shindzela and other surrounding arenas. Recently one of the Monwana males was seen beating up young Giraffe male further north in Klaserie

Dont know, but very strange that they would hang with Sumatra/Hercules while being under Monwanas..

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After some speculation about the Hercules and Sumatra males, it looks like they are with some of the Giraffe pride lionesses. The Hercules male is definitely more dominant of the 2 as he kept the older male away from 1 lionesses. The Sumatra walked after the remaining 2 lionesses that was visible to me.
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(04-22-2021, 06:35 PM)Potato Wrote: It will be very intresting to see their competition with the two Monwana males. My bet would be on Monwanas despite one of them being injured. Monwanas so far were proving to be strong and bold duo. They stand up to fight Xikukutsus with Mapoza even through they were outnumbered and right away after starting their nomadic life challanged and ousted Black Dam male (compare it for example with how much time Tumbelas needed to oust very old HB). Chassing out Sumatra/Hercules duo will be of course much bigger challange than ousting lone Black Dam male, but still I bet Monwanas will handle this competition as well.

(04-22-2021, 07:05 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Rest of Giraffes are prob further north around Kambaku and near Monwanas so clash might not even happen between the 2 coalitions, as Hercules/Sumatra might settle there as Mapoza and Xikukutsus moved further south.. 

(04-22-2021, 07:05 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Also, does anybody know numbers of pride members of Giraffe, Avoca and Monwana prides?? 

(04-22-2021, 07:35 PM)Potato Wrote: If they are with Giraffe famales then they are probably at northern parts of Shindzela  which is and always was part of the Giraffe pride territory. They are probably on Monwana males territory .