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RE: Lions of Timbavati - Gijima - 01-25-2021
(01-25-2021, 05:24 AM)sik94 Wrote:Most lions with ligament injuries or sprains can walk it off and recovery with regular meals. They don’t usually have one leg that completely withers away. This is exactly like Buddy from the Orpen males. Also, where are all the females with these same injuries? We’ve seen an old Nkuhuma lioness with her entire thigh muscle ripped open, heal and go back to normal. With a carnivore diet it’s not that hard to rebuild muscle.(01-24-2021, 07:06 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(01-24-2021, 06:51 PM)Potato Wrote: Nsuku was injured on that leg by Kambula females. TB just finished him off. Leg injury could be cause by many different thinks, not just TB. Nharhu male looks good apart from that injury. TB doesn't need to be the case here
Doesn’t need to be, but he is too long injured to be just regular injured, that would heal or partialy heal by now.. But hes is getting worse and worse, which it means thats prob TB, which doesnt allow to heal and it eats its muscle, just like Nsuku, Buddy, Sizananis etc..
He's not too long injured for it to be TB, hip or ligaments/muscle injuries aren't always fully recoverable, and probably none of these lions like nsuku, hip-scar, sizanani, or buddy had TB. They just had injuries that were getting worse cuz you can't go on bedrest in the wild.
It seems like if a male in his prime looses condition rapidly, it has to be an injury plus an illness that prevents them from putting on muscle. Maybe not quite TB but something similar.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - sik94 - 01-25-2021
(01-25-2021, 06:27 AM)Gijima Wrote:like you said, most do with minor injuries. The leg withers away because they can't use it fully so the muscle just atrophies, the rest of the body seems fine because they can still properly use it. You can't walk off a dislocated hip or a fracture that isn't being allowed to heal because it's being stressed no matter how many good meals the lion gets. I have seen multiple times that whenever a lion is injured, people start saying it's TB even though that's something that can be medically diagnosed, and doesn't have to be speculated. It's mostly just dislocated hips and nothing more.(01-25-2021, 05:24 AM)sik94 Wrote:Most lions with ligament injuries or sprains can walk it off and recovery with regular meals. They don’t usually have one leg that completely withers away. This is exactly like Buddy from the Orpen males. Also, where are all the females with these same injuries? We’ve seen an old Nkuhuma lioness with her entire thigh muscle ripped open, heal and go back to normal. With a carnivore diet it’s not that hard to rebuild muscle.(01-24-2021, 07:06 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(01-24-2021, 06:51 PM)Potato Wrote: Nsuku was injured on that leg by Kambula females. TB just finished him off. Leg injury could be cause by many different thinks, not just TB. Nharhu male looks good apart from that injury. TB doesn't need to be the case here
Doesn’t need to be, but he is too long injured to be just regular injured, that would heal or partialy heal by now.. But hes is getting worse and worse, which it means thats prob TB, which doesnt allow to heal and it eats its muscle, just like Nsuku, Buddy, Sizananis etc..
He's not too long injured for it to be TB, hip or ligaments/muscle injuries aren't always fully recoverable, and probably none of these lions like nsuku, hip-scar, sizanani, or buddy had TB. They just had injuries that were getting worse cuz you can't go on bedrest in the wild.
It seems like if a male in his prime looses condition rapidly, it has to be an injury plus an illness that prevents them from putting on muscle. Maybe not quite TB but something similar.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Tr1x24 - 01-25-2021
(01-25-2021, 05:24 AM)sik94 Wrote: He's not too long injured for it to be TB, hip or ligaments/muscle injuries aren't always fully recoverable, and probably none of these lions like nsuku, hip-scar, sizanani, or buddy had TB. They just had injuries that were getting worse cuz you can't go on bedrest in the wild.
Nsuku, HS, Sizanani and Buddy had 100% TB..
Lions can and will walked off injured ligaments, broken bones, dislocated hips etc..and they definitely wont died because of that if they had pride or brothers with them.. Example DM Avoca,Blondie Avoca , BYM, Wide Nose Nwaswitshaka etc.. All those lions had broken bones/ligaments and even tho are limping a bit, are in great condition..
This is something else..
Sizanani muscle getting eaten up:
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Hip Scar muscle also:
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 01-26-2021
The future of the @blackdampride of #lions lies with these three females.
A mother #lion and her two daughters, now also reaching breeding age, have attracted the attention of the males in the north, and they have ventured south and made contact with them. This will in all likelihood lead to the #mapozamale and his partners, the #ximukutsumale lions taking over the pride and their territory in the coming months.
There is another#lioness, also part of the pride, and them mating with, and having cubs, will continue the legacy of the @blackdampride of lions into the future.
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - titose - 01-26-2021
Majestic boy! 1/2 Skorro Males at Timbavati. these boys are sired by the Northern Matimba males.
#Knp #Timbavati
By: Keenan Street
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - Psyckoo - 01-27-2021
Western pride female and her three cubs sired by Skorro males
Credit Keenan Street
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - Cunaguaro - 01-27-2021
(01-26-2021, 08:53 PM)titose Wrote: Majestic boy! 1/2 Skorro Males at Timbavati. these boys are sired by the Northern Matimba males.
#Knp #Timbavati
By: Keenan Street
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Great face looking badass!
RE: Lions of Timbavati - titose - 01-27-2021
An impressive series of photos of the current rulers of Thornybush, the majestic Mapoza male and his two stepsons the huge Xikukutsu boys, a coalition that is bearing fruit.
#ThornybushGameReserve
By: Kelwan Rudi Kaiser
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RE: Lions of Timbavati - kobe8jf1234 - 01-27-2021
are the old ross males the same males as the old birmingham males different name both had 3 males ?
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 01-27-2021
(01-27-2021, 11:27 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: are the old ross males the same males as the old birmingham males different name both had 3 males ?
Those are two different coalitions.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - kobe8jf1234 - 01-27-2021
(01-27-2021, 11:40 PM)Potato Wrote:(01-27-2021, 11:27 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: are the old ross males the same males as the old birmingham males different name both had 3 males ?
Those are two different coalitions.
old ross males father 2 ross males and the old avoca/giraffe males lion? old birmingham father the 5 birmingham males ?
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Psyckoo - 01-28-2021
(01-27-2021, 11:57 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote:(01-27-2021, 11:40 PM)Potato Wrote:(01-27-2021, 11:27 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: are the old ross males the same males as the old birmingham males different name both had 3 males ?
Those are two different coalitions.
old ross males father 2 ross males and the old avoca/giraffe males lion? old birmingham father the 5 birmingham males ?
As for Old Avocas/Giraffe i don't know but yes Old Birmingham sired the 5 Birmingham males
RE: Lions of Timbavati - Potato - 01-28-2021
(01-27-2021, 11:57 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote:(01-27-2021, 11:40 PM)Potato Wrote:(01-27-2021, 11:27 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: are the old ross males the same males as the old birmingham males different name both had 3 males ?
Those are two different coalitions.
old ross males father 2 ross males and the old avoca/giraffe males lion? old birmingham father the 5 birmingham males ?
Yes. Old Ross males also sired Rockfig male.
RE: Lions of Timbavati - sik94 - 01-28-2021
(01-28-2021, 01:53 AM)Potato Wrote:(01-27-2021, 11:57 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote:(01-27-2021, 11:40 PM)Potato Wrote:(01-27-2021, 11:27 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: are the old ross males the same males as the old birmingham males different name both had 3 males ?
Those are two different coalitions.
old ross males father 2 ross males and the old avoca/giraffe males lion? old birmingham father the 5 birmingham males ?
Yes. Old Ross males also sired Rockfig male.
The one with the older Mbiri male?
RE: Lions of Timbavati - T I N O - 01-28-2021
(01-28-2021, 06:10 AM)sik94 Wrote:(01-28-2021, 01:53 AM)Potato Wrote:(01-27-2021, 11:57 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote:(01-27-2021, 11:40 PM)Potato Wrote:(01-27-2021, 11:27 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: are the old ross males the same males as the old birmingham males different name both had 3 males ?
Those are two different coalitions.
old ross males father 2 ross males and the old avoca/giraffe males lion? old birmingham father the 5 birmingham males ?
Yes. Old Ross males also sired Rockfig male.
The one with the older Mbiri male?
Yeah.