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RE: Bear Strength - Shadow - 01-26-2019
(01-26-2019, 05:16 PM)brotherbear Wrote: For several years now, I have found strongly conflicting assessments of the polar bears bite force. Some give the polar bear a very strong bite-force while others a very low bite-force. Two extremes. According to this testing, if I'm understanding correctly, the polar bear has a more powerful bite-force than a brown bear of similar size.
Actually in relative strength brown bear has better result in this. But what comes to bite forces, when I have seen some videos about testing, those tests have always looked like to be difficult ones and hard to know how reliable.
One thing is for instance crocodile. It is always praised how strong bite it has, but it never looks like to it if jaws are wide open. Maybe it is strong when jaws are almost shut, but for instance when looking at footage, it doesn´t just bite of limbs. But when it gets a good bite and starts to roll over in water, there are elements to cause severe injuries and also tear off limbs.
I haven´t looked this study too closely, just noticed it and linked it here for people to see if there are someones not seeing it before. But this looks like to be more professional, than those seen in many documentaries done by "WHOA scientists".... I mean those hosts of documentaries unable to hold screaming all the time, when seeing a wild bee....
RE: Bear Strength - Shadow - 01-26-2019
Heh, I have to take back what I wrote about crocs, this alligator does this so easily. Funny that I didn´t remember this :)
RE: Bear Strength - GrizzlyClaws - 02-02-2019
Dog got pinned several times by a Black bear cub.
RE: Bear Strength - Wolverine - 03-10-2019
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RE: Bear Strength - Sanju - 04-02-2019
Funny af. April Fool. Man fights bear and man wins.
RE: Bear Strength - Sanju - 04-29-2019
RE: Bear Strength - Shadow - 04-29-2019
(04-29-2019, 01:40 PM)Sanju Wrote:Watch as two bears battle for dominance! All images captured on a Reconyx Game Camera. Check out http://reconyx.com
That other black bear run out body paint and front legs remained black, so bluff didn´t work :) Obviously tried to pretend to be a grizzly and get easy way to make other black bears to run away...
RE: Bear Strength - Sully - 06-06-2019
From an account of grizzly predation on a bull bison
"The adult bear then chased the bison at full speed. At the Crest of the hill above the Yellowstone River, the bear swiped its paw across the headquarters of the bison, knocking the bison's back legs out from under it"
RE: Bear Strength - epaiva - 06-06-2019
(04-29-2019, 01:40 PM)Sanju Wrote:Watch as two bears battle for dominance! All images captured on a Reconyx Game Camera. Check out http://reconyx.com
@Sanju
Very good video very powerful Black Bears
RE: Bear Strength - Shadow - 07-23-2019
I just found this by accident, look from 1:15 forward. Then go to shop and try to do that, I think that not many are able to repeat that.
RE: Bear Strength - johnny rex - 09-05-2019
(02-02-2019, 07:07 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote: Dog got pinned several times by a Black bear cub.
Bears can be said as natural born wrestlers. Just look at how male bears fight with each other. Those "paw swipes that break bones" stories maybe are just exaggerations, bears tend to use their forelimbs to hold and wrestle prey or competitor to the ground not swiping hard.
RE: Bear Strength - Shadow - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 05:15 PM)johnny rex Wrote:(02-02-2019, 07:07 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote: Dog got pinned several times by a Black bear cub.
Bears can be said as natural born wrestlers. Just look at how male bears fight with each other. Those "paw swipes that break bones" stories maybe are just exaggerations, bears tend to use their forelimbs to hold and wrestle prey or competitor to the ground not swiping hard.
Look when wolves harass bears and you see swipes too. It is of course one thing to swipe and another to hit. But when swipe hits where it is meant to and behind that swipe is, let´s say 800-1000 pounds of weight, anyone can make a guess how many swipes are needed to finish for instance a wolf. It is a bit same like for instance with lions. I have seen only one documentary showing how male lion broke back of hyena with one paw swipe.
RE: Bear Strength - johnny rex - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 08:28 PM)Shadow Wrote:(09-05-2019, 05:15 PM)johnny rex Wrote:(02-02-2019, 07:07 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote: Dog got pinned several times by a Black bear cub.
Bears can be said as natural born wrestlers. Just look at how male bears fight with each other. Those "paw swipes that break bones" stories maybe are just exaggerations, bears tend to use their forelimbs to hold and wrestle prey or competitor to the ground not swiping hard.
Look when wolves harass bears and you see swipes too. It is of course one thing to swipe and another to hit. But when swipe hits where it is meant to and behind that swipe is, let´s say 800-1000 pounds of weight, anyone can make a guess how many swipes are needed to finish for instance a wolf. It is a bit same like for instance with lions. I have seen only one documentary showing how male lion broke back of hyena with one paw swipe.
Can you give me the link where a lion broke a hyena's back with a swipe? That's interesting.
RE: Bear Strength - johnny rex - 09-05-2019
(09-05-2019, 08:28 PM)Shadow Wrote:(09-05-2019, 05:15 PM)johnny rex Wrote:(02-02-2019, 07:07 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote: Dog got pinned several times by a Black bear cub.
Bears can be said as natural born wrestlers. Just look at how male bears fight with each other. Those "paw swipes that break bones" stories maybe are just exaggerations, bears tend to use their forelimbs to hold and wrestle prey or competitor to the ground not swiping hard.
Look when wolves harass bears and you see swipes too. It is of course one thing to swipe and another to hit. But when swipe hits where it is meant to and behind that swipe is, let´s say 800-1000 pounds of weight, anyone can make a guess how many swipes are needed to finish for instance a wolf. It is a bit same like for instance with lions. I have seen only one documentary showing how male lion broke back of hyena with one paw swipe.
In this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgjd7Ouce3Y at aroudn 6:18, it seems the bear used their paws to deter the wolves by clawing them downward. Swipe, according to my understanding, is when someone or something swinging left and right. But bears almost never use their paw as their main "weapons". It seems bears didn't give much force behind their paws when they are trying to fend off competitors. It is more like a push to me though. In most videos, bears rely on their "wrestling" and teeth.
RE: Bear Strength - GrizzlyClaws - 09-06-2019
(09-05-2019, 05:15 PM)johnny rex Wrote:(02-02-2019, 07:07 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote: Dog got pinned several times by a Black bear cub.
Bears can be said as natural born wrestlers. Just look at how male bears fight with each other. Those "paw swipes that break bones" stories maybe are just exaggerations, bears tend to use their forelimbs to hold and wrestle prey or competitor to the ground not swiping hard.
It could be exaggerated or sensationalized, but bears are plantigrade animals. Therefore, they would always hold some leverages in the wrestling mode against the digitigrade animals.