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RE: Lions of sabi sands - Ngala - 08-17-2016

Two sparta males, near Skukuza. Credits to Discoverkruger.

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RE: Lions of sabi sands - LionKiss - 08-17-2016

(08-13-2016, 02:13 AM)Gamiz Wrote: From Lion  Sands Game Reserve 

Charleston pride lioness (born in December 2004), her 2 sub adult male cubs (born on 21 March 2015) and the young Hilda's Rock Male Lion (born in January/February 2013). And by the looks of it, she/they caught either a adult male kudu or an adult male nyala in a pool of muddy water.


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About #273, the new enemies of HB & Ginger?


who was the father of this Hilda's Rock Male?
Freddy?
Toulons?


and who are the fathers of the young cubs in the photo?

RE: Lions of sabi sands - Tshokwane - 08-17-2016

(08-17-2016, 11:04 PM)LionKiss Wrote: who was the father of this Hilda's Rock Male?
Freddy?
Toulons?


and who are the fathers of the young cubs in the photo?

I'm not 100% certain, but I think the Hilda's Rock male might be son of either the Toulon males or the Sand river males( who were expelled last year).

The young cubs might be of the Toulon males.

RE: Lions of sabi sands - Gamiz - 08-18-2016

who was the father of this Hilda's Rock Male?


 @LionKiss, Sand River males are his fathers.

RE: Lions of sabi sands - Gamiz - 08-18-2016

Sand River male, H4-1, Kruger National Park

Credits to Graeme Mitchley - Amateur Wildlife Photography

Shy Toulon 

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RE: Lions of sabi sands - Ngala - 08-18-2016

@Gamiz, He isn't Shy Toulon (#230), but an old photo (2014) of the Sand River male.

Sand River males (two coalitions with the same name) and Toulon males are different coalitions.

One coalition, Sand River males (3 males, one male in the photo #230), take his name because they are the pride males of the Sand River pride for a long time, when around 2011 Toulon males (3 males) took over the pride and their territory. They are very big males. Renosterkoppies males are their sons. There are no sightings of them by many months. In this photo, 2 of the 3 males (one disappeared long time ago). 
Photo credits: Hylton Langley Safaris and Adventures

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Photo Credits: Graeme Mitchley

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An other coalition called Sand River males (3 males), and they disappeared since 2015. They come from the Hilda's Rock pride, fathered by the Old Skukuza male. One male have an encounter with two Majingilane, some year ago. They are the fathers of the young Skukuza/Hilda's Rock male. 
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Photo credits: Terry Ennever

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RE: Lions of sabi sands - Tshokwane - 08-19-2016

Mangheni young male, credits to Tristan and Grayson Dicks Wildlife Photography.

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RE: Lions of sabi sands - Gamiz - 08-19-2016

@Ngala, I thought it was Shy Toulon by the date of update of the owner of the pic, also I "saw" the blind eye of him xD.

RE: Lions of sabi sands - Tshokwane - 08-19-2016

From Londolozi, The Week in Pictures #245:

One of the Tsalala young males pauses to catch his breath after the pride just missed a buffalo. It was the first time in about 5 months I had seen the tailless female and the subadults, who all seem to be in good condition. Photograph by Kevin Power.

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RE: Lions of sabi sands - Ngala - 08-20-2016

From Londolozi Game Reserve, Lion Update: Matimbas, Mhangheni breakaways & the Matshipiris, by Kevin Power

Having just returned from a two week break, I have spent the last week catching up with the lion dynamics at Londolozi and there certainly have been a few movements whilst I was away.

The Mhangeni breakaways have been spending a lot more time on our property over the past few weeks, slightly further south and east of their four mothers who are still frequenting their “normal” territory. This movement east has meant that they have been encountering the Matimba males much more frequently. With these more frequent encounters, it has meant that the three young males from the Mhangeni breakaway pride have been under pressure to leave the young females, as their presence is a direct threat to the Matimba’s reign. The young females seem to be getting used to the idea of the older dominant males, even having shared a few meals. There has even been mating between one or two of the females with the Matimba males — could there potentially be cubs on the horizon for this new breakaway pride, sired by the Matimbas? Only time will tell.

Another very interesting change is the presence of a young male on his own. We aren’t too sure as to who he is but it may be the Ximungwe young male from the Ximungwe pride or potentially an outsider who’s found himself in unchartered territory. He has also been spending time with the break way pride and the Matimba males, but not really being fully accepted anywhere and having to keep a bit of a berth on the group.

There was a very interesting interaction two days ago between the Mhangeni breakaways, the new young male, Matshipiri males and Matimba males. The six females from the Mhangeni breakaway pride had ventured very far south and east on our property with the two Matimba males, and the new young male tagging along at a distance. This was the first time either the pride or the coalition had ventured this far south and east. This meant that they were very close to the boundary of the Matshipiri males’ territory. They managed to make a kill and finish it off rather quickly between the nine of them. The Matimba males left the pride that night and moved further west to patrol their territory, whilst the females (and the new young male) stayed for a few hours longer, sleeping off their rather large meal. When we managed to locate the pride on the morning game drive, they were slowly starting to head west again, back towards the heart of their usual territory. What they didn’t know though, was that the two Matshipiri males had picked up on their scent and were trailing them, rather quickly. At this point in the morning the two Matimba males had settled down quite a bit further west and had some shade that it seemed they were planning to spend the remainder of the day under. After about 20 minutes of trailing the pride the Matshipiri males caught up with them and mayhem ensued.

They ran into the pride with serious force, lions scattered everywhere. Luckily for the pride and the new young male, none of them were caught and all managed to escape unscathed. After a short while the Matshipiri’s decided they had enforced their dominance and decided to slowly head back east. Only five of the pride members managed to join up again, with one of the females and the young male finding themselves alone. We did find them later that afternoon, and both were untouched, but no doubt slightly rattled. At the time of all the commotion, the Matimba males heard the calling and growling and decided to investigate. They immediately got up and walked in the direction of the noise, calling every few minutes. They quickly picked up the scent of the Matshipiri males and started trailing them, calling all along. It seems the Matshipiri males must have felt slightly out of territory as they turned back east and swiftly returned. The Matimba males eventually caught sight of the two other males and chased them over our boundary with our neighbours and stopped in their tracks on the road — no doubt the territorial boundary between these two coalitions. Both coalitions then vocalised, announcing their territories, but not willing to venture over the imaginary line.

The “unidentified” young male trailing the pride and the Matimba males, always keeping a good distance between himself and the dominant Matimbas. Photograph by Alistair Smith.

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The young “unidentified” male, once again lagging a few paces behind the rest of the pride. Photograph by Alistair Smith.

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The young lionesses of the Mhangeni breakaway pride, oblivious to the Matshipiri males trailing them. Photograph by Alistair Smith.

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A young Mhangeni lioness marches purposefully towards water. Photograph by Alistair Smith.

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Photograph by Alistair Smith.

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Two of the young lionesses quench their thirst after digesting their meal. Photograph by Alistair Smith.

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Photograph by Alistair Smith.

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The mayhem begins! The Matshipiri males spot the pride and start to chase. Photograph by Alistair Smith.

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Photograph by Alistair Smith.

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With lions scattering everywhere, the Matshipiri males manage to assert their dominance over the breakaway pride and the young male. Photograph by Alistair Smith.

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The dark-maned Matimba male surveys his territory from a rocky outcrop. Photograph by Sean Cresswell.

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One of the young Mhangeni females looks back as the pride hears the distant calls of their fathers in the west – the Majingilane males. Photograph by Sean Cresswell.

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One of the Mhangeni lionesses scans from atop a termite mound, a member of what has now become somewhat of a super pride. Photograph by Sean Cresswell.

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As of yesterday morning, the breakaways had rejoined the original Mhangeni pride, making them a pride of 22! Will this last or will they be forced to split once again? What does the movement of the Matimbas eastward mean for the Matshipiri males in the future? Could they be pushed further east, or will they put pressure back on the Matimbas? What is the future of the new young male and the 3 young Mhangeni males and is their potential for a coalition to be formed between the four? When will they be forced to leave their sisters permanently?

We certainly cannot answer these questions now, but we do know that there are some exciting times ahead for the lion dynamics at Londolozi.

RE: Lions of sabi sands - Tshokwane - 08-20-2016

Amazing interaction and pictures.

From what I've been reading, the foreign young male is either the Ximhungwe male( son of the Selatis) or the missing third Talamati male(son of the Matimbas).

It would be great if the 3 Mangheni males and him could join up forces, four is much better than three.

RE: Lions of sabi sands - Gamiz - 08-23-2016

Shy Toulon drag the remains of a buffalo carcass around the Sand River for almost an hour 

March 2016

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RE: Lions of sabi sands - Gamiz - 08-23-2016

Talamati male at Umkumbe Sabi sands.

Credits to Jens Vleugels

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RE: Lions of sabi sands - NCAT33 - 08-24-2016

Looks like he has been in a fight recently. gashes on upper left leg and back.

RE: Lions of sabi sands - Tshokwane - 08-24-2016

(08-24-2016, 02:51 AM)NCAT33 Wrote: Looks like he has been in a fight recently. gashes on upper left leg and back.

Well, something must have happened to him to get him separated from his brothers. Mots likely, the Charleston males did it. It's good to know he's still alive.