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RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Pckts - 12-26-2022
(12-26-2022, 01:12 AM)Ashutosh Wrote: The extremely chunky Pattewala male, Kanha:
D1 roaming the Dhamokhar buffers, Bandhavgarh:
Typical Dudhwa male with roundest of faces. His girth from behind looks impressive as well:
Pattewala was a captive release, I think the FD is supplying him food though. He shouldn’t still be that chunky living a wild life.
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Ashutosh - 12-26-2022
@Pckts, Kanha officials won’t do that. That strictly goes against NTCA protocols. We saw a similar thing with Singham in Bandhavgarh.
Everyone said he only looked massive because the Bandhavgarh FD were feeding him. Except he jumped out of his enclosure at 14 months and was self sufficient. Even when he was translocated to Satpura, he was just as massive (a bit fat really compared to totally wild ones), but his size did not taper off. Pattewala has good genes. I would still think that DB3, Neela Nala, M3 and Boindabra are all bigger than him.
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Pckts - 12-26-2022
(12-26-2022, 02:01 AM)Ashutosh Wrote: @Pckts, Kanha officials won’t do that. That strictly goes against NTCA protocols. We saw a similar thing with Singham in Bandhavgarh.Protocols or not, they want the trial to succeed and I wouldn’t doubt they give him an extra boost to
Everyone said he only looked massive because the Bandhavgarh FD were feeding him. Except he jumped out of his enclosure at 14 months and was self sufficient. Even when he was translocated to Satpura, he was just as massive (a bit fat really compared to totally wild ones), but his size did not taper off. Pattewala has good genes. I would still think that DB3, Neela Nala, M3 and Boindabra are all bigger than him.
Ensure his survival.
No wild cat will sustain that fat of an appearance unless they are feeding off easy kills. Whether it’d be livestock or bait.
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Ashutosh - 12-26-2022
@Pckts, while that maybe true for FD of other parks like Panna or Sariska (after local extinction ) or even Satpura (till recently at least ) and Sanjay Dubri, it is not true for reserves which have ample tiger numbers like Kanha and Bandhavgarh.
Last year, a tigress was released into Bandhavgarh after 3-3.5 years of conditioning in the soft enclosure. She was attacked by the resident tigress the day after her release. The FD didn’t try and patch up her wounds. She died a day later. If this was any park when population was dwindling or survival of this one specimen had massive bearing on conservation, they would have likely gone out of their way to protect their “investment” so to speak.
But, in parks like these with constant churn of tigers, it is left by the FD to nature to do it’s thing as one death won’t destabilize the population. And, if the rehabilitated tiger can’t make it, so be it. That is attitude amongst such parks. There are enough cases to see where rehabilitated tigers they have made the cut.
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Pckts - 12-26-2022
(12-26-2022, 02:33 AM)Ashutosh Wrote: @Pckts, while that maybe true for FD of other parks like Panna or Sariska (after local extinction ) or even Satpura (till recently at least ) and Sanjay Dubri, it is not true for reserves which have ample tiger numbers like Kanha and Bandhavgarh.We’re talking about 2 different things.
Last year, a tigress was released into Bandhavgarh after 3-3.5 years of conditioning in the soft enclosure. She was attacked by the resident tigress the day after her release. The FD didn’t try and patch up her wounds. She died a day later. If this was any park when population was dwindling or survival of this one specimen had massive bearing on conservation, they would have likely gone out of their way to protect their “investment” so to speak.
But, in parks like these with constant churn of tigers, it is left by the FD to nature to do it’s thing as one death won’t destabilize the population. And, if the rehabilitated tiger can’t make it, so be it. That is attitude amongst such parks. There are enough cases to see where rehabilitated tigers they have made the cut.
But regardless parks no matter the Tiger density still go out of their way to intervene. Ranthambore is an obvious example, Bandhavgarh and Kanha all have done so.
My point was that the new Pattewala male was raised in captivity, fed baits and only recently released into the wild. I would almost guarantee that they’d be feeding him to help ensure his survival. Next is that his body composition isn’t that of a wild *natural killer* Tiger. It’s that of a cattle killer or captive cat. If he truly becomes self sufficient i will guarantee that you’ll see his body change drastically. If not he’ll maintain that soft composition. And if he fails to establish himself I would bet that they’d bring him back to a captive lifestyle.
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Rage2277 - 12-27-2022
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Pckts - 12-27-2022
Neela Nala
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Roflcopters - 12-28-2022
Neela Nala is huge! who do you think is bigger between Baisanghat and Neela Nala male? @Pckts @Ashutosh @Rage2277
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Pckts - 12-28-2022
(12-28-2022, 03:33 PM)Roflcopters Wrote: Neela Nala is huge! who do you think is bigger between Baisanghat and Neela Nala male? @Pckts @Ashutosh @Rage2277
They’re probably close in mass but NN looks bulkier while Baisanghat may be a larger in frame. Neither looks as big to me as Uma was though, I’d guess there are larger males in Kanha than either atm.
I’m not as up to date on the new generation so I can’t say for certain but just basing off their close encounters I’ve seen.
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Pckts - 12-28-2022
Balaghat Male limping. I definitely agree with others now that he's a smaller male, he definitely doesn't have the size you see in the big boys.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmtpnNOIwh-VxCXUW6BLzxNh8erXOB2rbTaf3A0/
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Rage2277 - 12-29-2022
i think baisanghat is the bigger of the two aswell no big diff though @Roflcopters
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Rage2277 - 12-29-2022
(12-28-2022, 11:05 PM)Pckts Wrote: Balaghat Male limping. I definitely agree with others now that he's a smaller male, he definitely doesn't have the size you see in the big boys.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmtpnNOIwh-VxCXUW6BLzxNh8erXOB2rbTaf3A0/
says page not found..and been saying it for years he's quite a small male, those kanha males would destroy him, also there's a new male in balaghat looks like from the kanha stock or maybe his son with the kanha female, he must have been fighting him here he is https://www.facebook.com/ricky.patel.5811877/videos/875347007140678/?idorvanity=1088692514517520
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Pckts - 12-29-2022
(12-29-2022, 03:55 AM)Rage2277 Wrote:(12-28-2022, 11:05 PM)Pckts Wrote: Balaghat Male limping. I definitely agree with others now that he's a smaller male, he definitely doesn't have the size you see in the big boys.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmtpnNOIwh-VxCXUW6BLzxNh8erXOB2rbTaf3A0/
says page not found..and been saying it for years he's quite a small male, those kanha males would destroy him, also there's a new male in balaghat looks like from the kanha stock or maybe his son with the kanha female, he must have been fighting him here he is https://www.facebook.com/ricky.patel.5811877/videos/875347007140678/?idorvanity=1088692514517520
If you clink the link that should work?
Balaghat was limping through Mukki so I'm assuming it's a mukki male.
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Rage2277 - 12-29-2022
wow he's in mukki? so that male in balaghat must have pushed him out then @Pckts
RE: Large male tigers from India (Videos Only) - Pckts - 12-29-2022
(12-29-2022, 05:08 AM)Rage2277 Wrote: wow he's in mukki? so that male in balaghat must have pushed him out then @Pckts
Possibly but they always move in and out of multiple zones. He’s obviously been fighting though, he’s limping pretty bad.