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RE: Lion pictures and videos - sanjay - 11-02-2015
This is an awesome video that have captured the epic battle between A cape buffalo and wild lion. I am not sure about what happened before or after the video but I must say this lion is very courageous. Despite of being injured severely by the buffalo he attempted to kill him every time
RE: Lion pictures and videos - GrizzlyClaws - 11-02-2015
The old fella probably hadn't eaten a decent meal for many days, that's why he has put his life on the line for this battle.
RE: Lion pictures and videos - Spalea - 11-03-2015
I have read his lion was sick and weakened. And this buffalo was its last chance... But of course it could not kill it. But I believe to have also read that the buffalo died after the fight because of its wounds.
RE: Lion pictures and videos - Apollo - 11-03-2015
(11-02-2015, 11:29 PM)sanjay Wrote: This is an awesome video that have captured the epic battle between A cape buffalo and wild lion. I am not sure about what happened before or after the video but I must say this lion is very courageous. Despite of being injured severely by the buffalo he attempted to kill him every time
Hatsoff.
What a male.
Fought till its last breath.
RE: Lion pictures and videos - Spalea - 11-03-2015
The whole account:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2945904/Battle-death-Buffalo-lion-endure-epic-hour-long-fight-leaves-animals-fatal-injuries.html?ito=social-facebook
The lion was suufering from mangue and was banned from its pride. And yes both animals died...
RE: Lion pictures and videos - GrizzlyClaws - 11-03-2015
@Dr Panthera, you can estimate the size of this massive captive male lion?
RE: Lion pictures and videos - Pckts - 11-03-2015
(11-03-2015, 04:36 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote: @Dr Panthera, you can estimate the size of this massive captive male lion?
He has loose skin and a MASSIVE mane. You know the true size is hidden under all that hair. Im sure he would fit right in the average range of any male lion IMO.
RE: Lion pictures and videos - Pantherinae - 11-03-2015
I agree @Pckts he did not look very impressive compared to The car's around him either. And estimate The weight of a lion that well hidden in mane is really hard, feel bad for Lions with such an amount of mane aswell it's not natrual.
RE: Lion pictures and videos - GrizzlyClaws - 11-03-2015
This is a big male lion, and he looks significantly larger than an average male Amur tiger.
RE: Lion pictures and videos - Pckts - 11-03-2015
(11-03-2015, 04:50 AM)Pantherinae Wrote: I agree @Pckts he did not look very impressive compared to The car's around him either. And estimate The weight of a lion that well hidden in mane is really hard, feel bad for Lions with such an amount of mane aswell it's not natrual.
On that topic, did you notice mane length differences between locations or just color variations?
I agree, I don't think any mane would ever be that long naturally unless said lion lived in colder locations. That being said, from the lions I see who live in Russia or China (captive parks of course) not only is their mane longer but their actual fur as well. This is why I think the impression used to be that Siberians were the largest cats and Barbary lions were the largest lions. When you have longer and denser fur surrounding the body, they cannot help but look more massive.
RE: Lion pictures and videos - Pckts - 11-03-2015
(11-03-2015, 04:53 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote: This is a big male lion, and he looks significantly larger than an average male Amur tiger.This is the lion that @Pantherinae apparently apprenticed with, he was massive. 250kg, the larger of the two siberian brothers was 207kg or something like that but he certainly doesn't look to be the bulkiest of tigers though. But Aslan is a large lion, take nothing away from him. 250kg for a lion or tiger is a massive cat.
RE: Lion pictures and videos - GrizzlyClaws - 11-03-2015
(11-03-2015, 04:53 AM)Pckts Wrote:(11-03-2015, 04:50 AM)Pantherinae Wrote: I agree @Pckts he did not look very impressive compared to The car's around him either. And estimate The weight of a lion that well hidden in mane is really hard, feel bad for Lions with such an amount of mane aswell it's not natrual.
On that topic, did you notice mane length differences between locations or just color variations?
I agree, I don't think any mane would ever be that long naturally unless said lion lived in colder locations. That being said, from the lions I see who live in Russia or China (captive parks of course) not only is their mane longer but their actual fur as well. This is why I think the impression used to be that Siberians were the largest cats and Barbary lions were the largest lions. When you have longer and denser fur surrounding the body, they cannot help but look more massive.
Amur can also produce some freak specimens in the captive, so does lion.
But overall on average Amur tiger might not be as impressive as it touted to be.
RE: Lion pictures and videos - Pckts - 11-03-2015
(11-03-2015, 04:59 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote:Why would you say this?(11-03-2015, 04:53 AM)Pckts Wrote:(11-03-2015, 04:50 AM)Pantherinae Wrote: I agree @Pckts he did not look very impressive compared to The car's around him either. And estimate The weight of a lion that well hidden in mane is really hard, feel bad for Lions with such an amount of mane aswell it's not natrual.
On that topic, did you notice mane length differences between locations or just color variations?
I agree, I don't think any mane would ever be that long naturally unless said lion lived in colder locations. That being said, from the lions I see who live in Russia or China (captive parks of course) not only is their mane longer but their actual fur as well. This is why I think the impression used to be that Siberians were the largest cats and Barbary lions were the largest lions. When you have longer and denser fur surrounding the body, they cannot help but look more massive.
Amur can also produce some freak specimens in the captive, so does lion.
But overall on average Amur tiger might not be as impressive as it touted to be.
You have to use more than just one lion or tiger to come to this conclusion I think.
Siberians are massive in captivity, they still hold the world record but its obviously skewed. No pure bred bengal tiger lives in captivity anywhere we are able to get verified weights, india certainly doesn't share any of their weights that I'm aware of.
I will say this, I have read many old circus performers who specifically mention Siberians being much larger than their cousins, but were they weighed? Where were the the tigers from? Usually they are quoted as being from "bengal" but that could of been sunderban tigers so thats why I don't think its concrete proof. The only thing we can go off of is verified weights, past and present. Going off of those, you're correct, the siberian was overestimated compared to the Indian Bengal tiger, which is the largest cat on average or world record. Which you are aware of, of course.
RE: Lion pictures and videos - Pantherinae - 11-03-2015
(11-03-2015, 04:53 AM)Pckts Wrote:(11-03-2015, 04:50 AM)Pantherinae Wrote: I agree @Pckts he did not look very impressive compared to The car's around him either. And estimate The weight of a lion that well hidden in mane is really hard, feel bad for Lions with such an amount of mane aswell it's not natrual.
On that topic, did you notice mane length differences between locations or just color variations?
I agree, I don't think any mane would ever be that long naturally unless said lion lived in colder locations. That being said, from the lions I see who live in Russia or China (captive parks of course) not only is their mane longer but their actual fur as well. This is why I think the impression used to be that Siberians were the largest cats and Barbary lions were the largest lions. When you have longer and denser fur surrounding the body, they cannot help but look more massive.
I did not understand the first question.. was it that if I can see difference between different lion populations across Africa?
but another thing I have noticed with lion manes in captivity is that it's just like with dog breeds they breed lion with bigger manes for generations, especially in private parks like in China and also in Europe they did it before, but the climate does play a big part, like with Aslan in Norway he has gotten a larger mane than usual, even though he's father comes from the wild most likely because of the climate.
RE: Lion pictures and videos - GrizzlyClaws - 11-03-2015
(11-03-2015, 05:02 AM)Pckts Wrote:(11-03-2015, 04:59 AM)GrizzlyClaws Wrote:Why would you say this?(11-03-2015, 04:53 AM)Pckts Wrote:(11-03-2015, 04:50 AM)Pantherinae Wrote: I agree @Pckts he did not look very impressive compared to The car's around him either. And estimate The weight of a lion that well hidden in mane is really hard, feel bad for Lions with such an amount of mane aswell it's not natrual.
On that topic, did you notice mane length differences between locations or just color variations?
I agree, I don't think any mane would ever be that long naturally unless said lion lived in colder locations. That being said, from the lions I see who live in Russia or China (captive parks of course) not only is their mane longer but their actual fur as well. This is why I think the impression used to be that Siberians were the largest cats and Barbary lions were the largest lions. When you have longer and denser fur surrounding the body, they cannot help but look more massive.
Amur can also produce some freak specimens in the captive, so does lion.
But overall on average Amur tiger might not be as impressive as it touted to be.
They are massive in captivity, they still hold the world record but its obviously skewed. No pure bred bengal tiger lives in captivity anywhere we are able to get verified weights, india certainly doesn't share any of their weights that I'm aware of.
The average Amur or lion are just as large as their healthy wild counterparts, but they got more chance to become big thanks to more nutrition they received daily, the life is also more stable, no need to worry about the meal of tomorrow.
I say non-obese captive big cats are just showing the maximum potential of their respective species.
And it is quite odd that there are very little pure breeding captive Bengal tigers outside of India. Otherwise, the captive Bengal and the captive Amur should be about the same size.