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The Matimba coalition

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Any new reports on the males?
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How can it be that they were reports on the Northern und Southern Matimba Males on almost a daily basis and now there are no news about them for 2 weeks?!
Can it be that the Matimba Males are dead?
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They are living as nomads in areas where unlike sabi sands there aren't many reports of sightings on social media accounts made. As far as I know, tintswalo lodge is the only lodge in the manyeleti which reports sightings on a regular bases. Also, all these lodges north of the sabi sands probably don't know know of the matimbas and see them just as two old males who can't compete for territory anymore. To us they are characters we have followed for years, but not to others. The lodges that do report sightings focus on resident prides and coalitions and are less likely to report on a coalition that is past it's prime and is only seen sporadically. All this is why we don't see many reported sightings of the matimbas anymore.
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They are the pride males of the tsala pride
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(06-16-2017, 10:02 PM)Chris Wrote: They are the pride males of the tsala pride

they abandoned the tsalala pride back in late january/early feb
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Like are they waiting for a good opportunity or what because I know they are still a bit confident.
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Any new reports on the males?
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(06-19-2017, 09:26 AM)Chris Wrote: Any new reports on the males?

If there are new reports on the males, they will post it. No need to ask for it again and again.
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Any new reports on the males?
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(06-22-2017, 07:17 AM)Chris Wrote: Any new reports on the males?

Dude...when there's new reports...somebody will f'ing post them. Stop going into every thread and asking this.
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(06-22-2017, 07:24 AM)stoja9 Wrote:
(06-22-2017, 07:17 AM)Chris Wrote: Any new reports on the males?

Dude...when there's new reports...somebody will f'ing post them. Stop going into every thread and asking this.

i think they are in thornybush up past manyeleti
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(06-22-2017, 09:06 AM)jacksonsmash Wrote:
(06-22-2017, 07:24 AM)stoja9 Wrote:
(06-22-2017, 07:17 AM)Chris Wrote: Any new reports on the males?

Dude...when there's new reports...somebody will f'ing post them. Stop going into every thread and asking this.

i think they are in thornybush up past manyeleti

Thanks
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( This post was last modified: 10-19-2017, 05:57 AM by Fredymrt )

A bit of Matimba history:

Info & PhotoCredits to 
•Jason Doiron  from Manyeleti G.R
•Drizzle Jordaan From Manyeleti and  Sabi Sands
•Richard Millar Manyeleti Manyeleti G.R
•Tara piere from wildearth.tv S.s
•karin van from Nkorho S.s
•Cedric Dold from Nkorho,Arathusa S.s
•tristan dicks from Chitwa Chitwa S.s


5 Matimba   Pic by Drizzle Jordaan
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August 25 2010 3 Matimbas attacked and severely injured Nkuhuma male Dozie Mandevu by Oct 2010 they had taken over his territory
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Dozie after fight The Matimbas

September 14 2010 2 Matimbas attacked/killed 1 of the young Skybeds males, but not without a fight 1 of the Matimbas was severly injured also but has since recovered
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Photo by Richard millar

In December 2010  they attacked the Gijima males and chased them out of Manyeleti and took over Gijima territory as well

Gijima males

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photos by Richard Millar 


January 2011 they started the takeover of the Skybeds pride, in April 2011 they finally chased the 3 old Skybeds males away and took over their territory and the Skybeds pride"


Posted by Tara Piere On july 25th 2011

"WE were still searching for a coalition of 6 male lions called the Matimbas, thought to be from the Manyeleti in the North. 5 of this group had been hanging out around Gowrie Dam in the early morning. Having heard their roars in the West at the beginning of drive, WE searched for tracks only to find they were still on the open area by the dam! By the time WE caught up with them they were just disappearing into the bush.
The Alpha male of the Matimba lions.The big "Nduna" or chief of the group has the tip of his tail missing. The rest are golden maned lions and could possibly give the Majingilanes a run for their money, only time will tell what will happen"



27th july 2011 Approx 6:15pm CAT http://www.wildearth.tv- Djuma Waterhole Cam Djuma Game Reserve, South Africa, Sabi Sand. Lions walk by followed by roars [Matimbas or Majingilanes]






July 28, 2011 at 1:49 posted by Cedric Dold Nkorho Bush Lodge 
They attacked the 4ways Pride.

"Matimba male lions (6) Rhino shortcut road (The morning started out with the six male lions tracks coming south straight towards the KNP pride (4ways pride) that was on a zebra kill. As we then followed there tracks moving east away from the kill as the males tracks was on top of the female tracks. This could only mean one thing... the cubs were in danger. But we could only find one set of cub tracks and that was not a good sign. We followed on to see if we could locate them. After about a half hour we got one of the males coming north. Then all of a sudden we got another five males behind, this was awesome to see. We followed them in to the bush where they brought down a buffalo calf. It was Mayhem when all six of them started to fight over the calf. But finally they all settled down but still growling at each other. Wow what a morning. No news on the KNP pride."
Regards
Cedric (Nkorho ranger)

From Chitwa: 28th july 2011
Posted by Peter Rettig

"We had the two KNP lionesses with a lion hot on their heels in the staff car parking lot! That male was followed by his 5 other brothers! These are the new boys on the block"
No info if the males caught up with the females and no info on the cubs. Only time will tell
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By Peter Rettig:
Thanks, let's hope the KNP girls have listened to the roaring and made their way out of danger in time, did you heard Majingilanes roaring back as answer to Matimba males ?

By Cedric Dold:
We only got sets for one one cub.. not good news

From: Karin van der Merwe 28th july 2011
"They came all the way from the Manyeleti ... far north of us. They started moving to the south the last few days and were seen on Vuyatela yesterday. Last night they moved further south onto Chitwa where they found the KNP pride on the Zebra kill.
There was some sort of a fight...not really sure what happened but we think they might have been chasing the KNP females south during the night or very early this morning. Our rangers followed up on the tracks and found them close to the Mala Mala boundry... Luck was on our side as there was a herd of Buffalo and apparently one of them took down a young one and eventually the other 5 joined later on. The Majingilanes are also not very far from here so this can turn out nasty... just hope the KNP females got away
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4ways cub

Here are some pics of the Matimba males taken at Nkorho on July 28,2011
Photo credits: karin van der merwe


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Cedric Dold Nkorho Bush Lodge July 29, 2011 at 4:38am  
"Signs of the bush
The six male lions tracks all went up cheetah plains new driveway moving north in to Torchwood."

Regards
Cedric (Nkorho ranger)
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"Are the Majingilanes strong enough and smart enough to handle all the new coalitions crossing through their territory ? .. especially concerned with the Matimbas as they seem to be invading many areas" only time will tell." 
 
The second real test for the Majingilane
Aug 1, 2011 4 Matimba's  vs  3 Majingi males, you can read more about this encounter from Nkorho here:http://wildfact.com/forum/topic-the-matimba-coalition?pid=10832#pid10832
 

Aug 1, 2011 Matimba Males

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At the top 3 matimbas at the bottom the Majingilanes

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photo by liam rainier


Majingilane Males

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Aug 1, 2011
Great report Cedric.1:0 for the Majingilanes, being able to chase the Matimbas off their territory although being outnumbered. May be the Matimbas decide the south being to costly to invade? Let's hope for it.

(Cedric Dold)
The Majingilanes is older.. about a year. But the Matimba males are big in body. Aug 1, 2011


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The Matimbas look like a force to be reckoned withand we know what the Majingilanes are capable of.

Matimba male

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nduna

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Slit nose

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Mid August 201, 3 of the Matimbas were seen mating with a couple of the Nkuhuma females. We're looking forward to seeing some little Matimbas around!


This young Skybed male with dislocated leg was badly mauled by Matimbas in Aug 2011.
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First part of Sept 2011 Nduna/Stompie returns to Manyeleti & is seen with pregnant Skybeds
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Matimbas vs majingilanes... what a really clash of titans! is possible understand why they never did a direct combat cause it would be sterile!
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What happened to Nduna male?
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