Lions of Timbavati

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(04-13-2024, 03:10 PM)Potato Wrote: That is mostly beacuse seeing two loners competing for the same territory is very rare to begin with. How many such examples do you know? Give me such, I'll wait. When it happen then of course one male can take territory from another. Giraffe male took over Black Dam pride from Black Dam male, Black Dam male took Giraffe pride from Mapoza male. Also Kruger male would probably take over territory from Imbali male if Imbali wouldn't pass away ealier. 

If you can beat your opponent then you can oust him as well, simply as that.

Yes, they are rare because nomadic males are avoiding it, they know they cant succeed (or should i say, afford to lose) as nomad to challenge territorial male. And all that what you are saying where "takeovers" where former male was in process or already abandoned former pride for new one, and then that new male came in his place, as are some of my examples aswell.

Theres just no example which i know where young nomad directly ousted healthy territorial male in 1vs1 into nomadhood, because it didnt or very, i mean very rarely happens.

So no, Giraffe, or any other lone nomad, pretty much cant oust healthy territorial male in 1vs1, unless that male is unhealthy, injured, very old, or if he is already in proccess of abandoning that territory and pride.

Closest we got was prime nomadic Maputo challenging old Kumana, and even he didnt oust him, they eventually link. Reply