Amur Tigers

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(01-19-2024, 12:35 AM)Pckts Wrote: More of the same…

there is an entire catalog of videos and accounts of Bears chasing off Tigers. In fact, far more of Bears willing to engage with Tigers than the other way around. 
The excuse that “if” a Tiger wanted to it’d devour and kill any bear holds no water since when the attack starts the Tiger intends to kill, it’s only after that it decides to relinquish, not the other way round. Bears don’t get to choose when the fight is off, they aren’t fast enough to escape.

A perfect example of your fanaticism is the last account you are asking me to challenge?
Do you think a 2nd hand account from a hunter "hearing" about an encounter is fact?
Almost every “account” you post isn’t first hand, it’s guess work or interpretation or 2nd hand “someone” told me. 

This is your M.O.
You post these absurd stories then make interpretations or claims based off of your preference without even understanding the lack of factual evidence that exists in them.
You then have your claim turned on its head and you change the goal post to another absurd claim.

This was a true face palm moment! I cannot believe that you of all people actually had the nerve and audacity to state this. With all honesty and seriousness, you're a extremely arrogant and ignorant person who clearly hasn't got a clue about tiger-bear relations. Your posts are full of blatant lies and false, empty claims. 

You deliberately turn a blind eye to all the 1st hand accounts and evidence I posted and just continue to state nonsense. So direct statements and accounts from experienced biologists are 2nd hand? scientific studies and research from field biologists is 2nd hand? Accounts from experienced forest rangers who personally examined the kill-sites is 2nd hand?? What the hell are you talking about? You're spouting absolute nonsense and lies.

Funny how you say there's an "entire catalog of videos and accounts of bears chasing off tigers" and yet there's even a MUCH, MUCH LARGER catalog of accounts of tigers slaughtering brown bears, black bears and sloth bears. Actual kill accounts! No comparison whatsoever. Not to mention the plenty of accounts & videos of tigers chasing off bears too, as well as the recent video of an adult brown bear fleeing from a tigress!

The fact is, no matter how much factual evidence and authentic accounts I post, you'll just keep making lame excuses and arrogantly dismiss them, simply because it doesn't suit your views and agenda, period. 

You even indirectly called bullsh*t on biologists Karanth and Sunquist's research, conclusions and accounts of tigers killing 1000 kg bull gaurs. Which was ridiculous and pathetic. Thats just one example. Remember one important thing, your ignorance, arrogance, bias and ridiculous skepticism will NEVER refute or change reality and truth.

Who made you the expert?? Who are you to determine what "factual evidence" is compared to an actual field biologist, zoologist, experienced hunter, forest ranger??

"Absurd stories"?  Which stories??!! Show me? Why are they "absurd"??  Because a big male sloth bear got destroyed and devoured by a tiger, while you have ZERO evidence to show me vice versa?? Is that why?

My "claim turned on its head"??  LMAO! Which claim?? What on earth are you on about? You have proven nothing, zilch!  Where's your evidence?? I'm still waiting!!

I easily debunked the statements you posted from Thapar and Sankhala. All you do is constantly make false claim after false claim without a shred of evidence to back it up.

Go on, if I'm wrong, answer my questions and post evidence to back-up your nonsensical claims then??

Show me a single account of a big male sloth bear killing any tiger in a fight??  Show me a single account of a sloth bear contesting even a juvenile tiger cub for its kill??  Show me a single account of ANY bear species killing a similar-sized tiger in a fight? Go on, prove all your lies and claims?

I can post several videos of full-grown adult sloth bears retreating and running from even juvenile tigers.

And all those videos of sloth bears chasing off mostly juvenile/female tigers doesn't negate nor compare to all the TONS of accounts throughout history of tigers killing and eating sloth bears of all sizes, genders and ages.

Here's another account from a reliable source of a Bengal tiger that killed and completely consumed a large bear:

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https://archive.org/details/JournalOfThe...d+by+tiger


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