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ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris)

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@Apex Titan 

I come to add an understanding to your good arguments and material on Mr. Aramilev's thinking. I will carefully read the link provided to Mr. Kucherenko's book - Predatory animals of the forest.

His observations are fully valid and I consider them important in this entire context. We are building a point and not a counterpoint.

Given everything we already have, conclusions are pretty clear. There is no need to put us on a fully balanced scale. In fact, the differences are small.

Mr. Aramilev's video was important in building this understanding, it is the opinion of a professional involved in conservation and we must consider all the points. What he said does not contradict what I think, and it further strengthened what I find useful on the subject. I believe that what we already have here is enough for everyone to form an opinion on it. That's not to say we don't want to get new points about this dynamic among predators.

Thanks.


@peter 

I can't agree with you more!

His observations were very consistent, with the right balance dose. I thought of separating some parts of what you said, but your ideas were very clear, building formidable points, making it unnecessary to round out what has already been said well.

I also see some of Mr. Aramilev's contradictions (however relying on google translate for videos is foolhardy), so I may not literally understand sentence by sentence of the interview, but reading his points I see that I have read the video satisfactorily.

I believe that two or three questions to Mr. Aramilev could clarify the missing points in this discussion about this hypothetical combat.

To finish:

"It seems obvious to me that we cannot predict winners if both predators are at in your fullness of life and in excellent health conditions (male brown bear above 400 kg x adult male tiger). Injured, sick, malnourished animals, among other situations of vulnerability, are predation victims regardless of their body size, and as an intelligent predator, the tiger certainly makes a complete read of its opponent before any predatory action. That said, it may be the deciding factor that conjectures the prevalence of adult male tigers over adult male brown bears. In the minute 7 of the video he balances forces, "half beat the bears and half beat the tigers", later on he favors the tiger (I would suggest that the scientific part was focused on the balance between the two and personal preferences predispose the tiger to discretion of intelligence and agility - but that's it's just a personal perception I had about Mr. Aramilev's explanatory context)".

Thanks.
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