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Tintswalo about Avoca/Giraffe males:

What a feeling to experience a walk by from a coalition of male lions! The Giraffe Males are a coalition of five males. Four of the males were born in September 2009 and the 5th male was born in September 2011. Four of these males have joined up with the two Avoca males and is known as the Avoca/Giraffe coalition. The two Avoca males are about 9-10 years old.


Theres a bit of confusion of the numbers for Avoca/Giraffe coalition between previous post of Old Ross males and this Tintswalo post.

Old Ross post says that they had 7 subadult sons born in Giraffe pride, 2 where older and moved of before, they joined Avoca pride, and where called new Avoca males, 2 of them moved north and never seen again and the rest 3 joined their older brothers 2 Avocas and formed a coalition of 5 Avoca/Giraffe males, they had another son 2 yrs younger then these but he never joined them, he moved on his own in Thornybush and is now known as Giraffe male.

This post from Tintswalo says that they where 5 Giraffe males (they didnt include 2 older Avocas and 2 that moved north) and that 4 of them joined their older brothers Avoca males, and 5th 2 yrs younger left on his own in Thornybush.

So the previous post says that there was 3 Giraffe males that joined 2 Avocas and Tintswalo post says that they where 4 Giraffe males joined 2 Avocas. So which is correct? Where there 5 or 6 lions in Avoca/Giraffe coalition? 

Does anybody have more insight in this?? Reply