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"So apperantly these boys have 1 or even 2 prides towards the east in Kruger. In the past Fourways pride was in that area east of Kirkmans /South MalaMala so maybe they control them."
To the east from them is Sand River pride, territory of Mantimahle. Lion prides adjust their movement the way to be closer towards their dominant males so if Avocas would take controll over Fourways pride them I am pretty sure we would very often see that pride in southern Mala Mala. If the indeed controll some pride outside Sabi Sand them I would rater look for it to the south of SS. Perpaps Avocas push to the south could be reason why in 2018 Charleston males came back to Sabi Sands clearly in intention to hunt down Avoca males. Perhaps after Mazino's death Avocas indeed expanded south pushing remaining Charleston males further west towards Phebani gate ( also could be that Charleston(s) expanded towards Phebani Gate and Avocas just filled vacum).