Tiger-Lion Coexistence in Eurasia between Middle Pleistocene and Holocene Epochs

[Sanju]

(04-09-2019, 11:16 AM)Spalea Wrote: I'm convinced too that tigers and lions coexisted before in such places like Gir forest. And also in other countries like Iran. We have just to take a look on their respective range/habitats during the pleistocene and holocene periods to be sure of that.

Even if tigers and lions don't prefer exactly the same biotops, they were able to intersect, to cross each other at the boundaries of these prefered biotops. A sort of mutual reconnaissance could have prevailed... I think it was unavoidable from time to time.

couldn't have said better myself. Aggressive interactions between "sympatric" predators due to direct competition of dietary overlap is common through out the world since life of dinosaurs or theropods. These encounters may or may not leads to fights and even rarely deaths. That totally depends. Both the apex predators or ultimate carnivores life style and social behavior is different. As Asiatic lion female group size is 4 to 6 and male is 2. Tiger usually live solo.

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https://cbs.umn.edu/research/labs/lionresearch/faq

Coexistence means not friendship. It means just living in same place. Fights, encounters and deaths may not occur in large scale but can occur on small scale when inter-species competition exists.

Quote:Pocock thought that it was unlikely that serious competition between them regularly occurred, and that even if Indian lions and tigers met, the chance that they would fight for survival was as good as the chance that they would choose to avoid each other, and that their chances of success, if they were to clash, were as good as each other's.

https://archive.org/stream/PocockMammali...1/mode/2up

Like pocock said in most cases, lion outnumbers tiger, tiger avoids and always will be alert to avoid lions. Vice versa, lone lions will be on alert and avoids possible confrontation with tigers.
But accidental coincidence or confrontation may lead to fight (rarely death too) which may not end as death or escape with injuries. As animals can be anywhere in a given area at a given instant of time in the vast forest land or wilderness. But again these animal are versatile if needed but prefer to lived in their own habitats. Kuno is more grassier and plapur is forest"ier".

we all know life and death is continuous process, this natural competition should exist in a place which maintains balance in ecosystem for limited prey and water resources.

The deaths due to competition will replenish with new birth of individuals or cubs and will settle as a stable population at the carrying capacity of the reserve area.

Albeit, Tiger presence in kuno sporadic as one permanent male T 38 living for 9 yrs there. Others are transient males which live temporary as there is over 120 km gap b/w ranth and kuno with highly fragment forest links and river, highways and human limitation b/w them. This journey or migration can only be done by some males from ranth can but females won't. Hence, only man made translocation of tigers can start a breeding unit or metapopulation of tigers in kuno. If not these spilling ranth males only appear time to time wandering dying without mates continues. No permanent stable tiger population will exist in kuno.

(04-09-2019, 11:16 AM)Spalea Wrote: And that in a park that would quickly risk to become a too restricted place for these two apex predators... This park should be restructured, I think.

Kuno forest landscape is a huge area of nearly 3500 km2; in it 1200 km2 wildlife division and 800 km2 National park. There is plenty of space and prey for lions and tigers and their population will stabilized according to availability of prey.

Nevertheless after sometime it will be filled like many tiger reserves and lion reserves of Africa. It's universal and animals move out naturally after saturation of the population inside PAs. In this human world man-animal conflict is inevitable but the point here, humans should try their best to conserve them at least "in the" natural reserves.

To manage conflicts and preserve animals inside forests, forest dept administration is created in India. Reply