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07-29-2014, 08:58 PM( This post was last modified: 07-29-2014, 08:59 PM by GuateGojira )
Pckts:
1. From your words, should I think that you finally accept that adult white tigers were real???
2. Those naturalist have the same sickness that affected Dr Vratislav Mazak, they are biased toward they favorite animal, in they case, the Bengal tiger. I appreciate a lot they photographs, but even then, they are not the best source for "size and weight". They are naturalist, like you say, so I will believe in they anecdotal sights (like those of Jim Corbett, for example), but I will certainly will not believe in they size estimation, that is too difficult to get, even for true experts.
3. Should I show you my REAL words? Here we go:
“In fact, I am 100% sure that all these giants are no heavier than 260 kg and no larger than c.205 cm in head-body length and c.105 cm in shoulder height. The only one probably larger than this size is Wagdoh and of course, the giants of Kaziranga.”
From these words, where do you get this sick idea:
Pckts say: “You said you were 100% that no wild tigers weigh 260kg or above”
Read again dude, I NEVER say that ALL Bengal tigers weight "less" than 260 kg in these days. I say that the large males from Kanha and Ranthambore (like Konda), those which kept you discussing, are in fact, about 260 kg in the best case. In 100 years of hunting records, the heaviest male hunted in the entire Central India was of 255 kg, there are not enough records from the Ranthambore region to take any conclusions, but they do look at about 250 kg in the best cases, and we have no idea about Bandhavgarh, although some estimate them at over 260 kg too, but these are only estimations and vary from people to people.
However, I CLEARLY said that exceptionally large males like Wagdoh or the specimens from Kaziranga, and I most add the entire Terai region, show specimens that probably reach over 260 kg. The Gwalior-Kumaon region present specimens of up to 272 kg, Nepal provided specimens of up to 320 kg and the Assam region give us large males of up to 256 kg, although the samples here are very limited. Even then, in the same time period, this region (north India) presents heavier specimens than those of Central and South India. From the few specimens hunted-captured in the Western Ghats, the heaviest was of 227 kg.
It seems that there is a clear variation between regions, with southern specimens been lighter, central ones been medium to large sizes and northern males been the largest of all. Interestingly, the three regions present specimens with maximum total lengths of over 310 cm, despite they body mass differences. Obviously, this is based in a few samples gathered through several years, but at least, we can draw some conclusions based in actual data.