Plains Camp males

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(09-02-2023, 08:15 AM)Mapokser Wrote: 1- Does mane even blind our persception that much when we have something to compare as a reference? NK was only thought to be smaller than Nhenha before they joined up, once they were seen in the same vids, we saw they were equal. Another example, Shaka Mbiri has similar mane to NK, but everybody says he is huge and not much smaller than his big-maned brother.

Yes, mane brings a lot, Scar is always reffered to being bigger then Shaka, mostly because of his massive mane, as their overall body size is quite similar, with Scar being a bit more muscular.

Another example mrT Mapogo, always called one of the smallest, but when he was near his brothers, especially after his return, he looked on pair in body size as even Dreadlocks.

Males who are similar in size, one with bigger mane will appear bigger in our eyes and frame.

(09-02-2023, 08:15 AM)Mapokser Wrote: 2- PCM didn't had a full belly, just a partial stomach content, far from full. Not to say, PCM had just turned 5, while NK was 6+ already. According to the chart on age/weight, the average lion goes from 184kg when he turns 5 to 188kg when he turns 6, entering his absolute prime, so while it doesn't make a big difference, PCM likely gained a few kg in the last year to make up for the stomach content they had when comparing to NK.

Im not just talking about belly fullnes, yet overall mass, lion who eated recently will have more mass in body then lion who didnt eat for days.

Lions are not always at same mass, you can find sightings of even PCMs where they look massive and then when they look thinner.


And we wil say then "oh look, that other lion looks more massive then this skinnier one", but if skinnier eated as massive one, he might look massive as him.

(09-02-2023, 08:15 AM)Mapokser Wrote: 3- Also, one thing we gotta consider is that while some frames are "perfect", in some others NK is much closer to the camera, but even then he didn't manage to match even the smaller PCM who not only is shorter than his brother:

Smaller maned PC male is not shorter then his brother, they are same sizes in height. 

You used photo where bigger maned stands with head up, while his brothers head is down.

This again shows how comparisons with photos are tricky, and can be easily manipulated.

(09-02-2023, 08:15 AM)Mapokser Wrote: There's a considerable difference between NK and smaller PCM, and another considerable difference between smaller PCM and his bigger brother

Idk what you consider "considerable" ,but yea, PCMs are a bit bigger overall then NK, thats not even debate.

Would they dwarf him? No, because NK is also big, by that logic females should look like subs towards PC males, as NK looks quite bigger then females aswell.

I mean you can compare Ximhungwes to both parties. Reply