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Felids Interactions - Intraspecific Conflicts

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Piva male vs Inyatini male, credits to Londolozi Game Reserve.



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In all my time reading and watching videos about wild cats, this is the first, and let me put enough importance on this, the First time I see two lions fighting one vs one and going for it seriously.

Video taken at Tswalu Kalahari, South Africa. Credits to Rodger Bowren.

Watch it in full screen and turn the volume up. It's amazing.



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(06-20-2016, 10:00 PM)Pckts Wrote: Guess who's back?

And what a surprise... He's fighting again.
He's sporting a fresh new cut on his eye as well

Naren Malik

Gabbar is back..........
When paunderpani family was in grave danger as an intruder roaming in area, gabbar's entry is just like a hero. He was dreadfully looking for some other tiger when we saw him, later what we heard he found matkasur male near a water body and they were chasing each other.
It was another relief to see Maya and cubs pawmarks all over P-1, P-2 talao.
What an amazing world of big cats!

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Last update from Tadoba............

After seeing two male chasing each other in morning drive, we knew outcome wouldn't be good. In evening drive saw matkasur male with some injury on his nose and some fresh bruises on his belly but not intense, gabbar and this guy must have fought day time. No one saw gabbar though but his pawparks were near tadoba lake and we are hoping he is also fine!

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They say, he is trying to take over Maya's territory. Maya has not been sighted with cubs for last 10-12 days and she is running away from the cubs, may be she trying to distract him from the cubs. I hope she successfully raise all three cubs!

This guy is known as 'Matkasur'.

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One more photo of Matkusar after the fight
Deepak Chaddha

Male Tiger
Tadoba.
This wounded male tiger crosses the road, settles in a water body, quenches thirst, poses for us & proceeds. This is very normal phenomenon.


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To the victor go the spoils...

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Gabbar(Male Tiger) and Maya(Female Tigress) bonding| Tadoba Andhari Tiger Reserve
Bonding between tigers is indeed one of the rarest sightings which are visible to tourists and especially from such close angles, it was a treat for all the wildlife enthusiasts at Tadoba.
A day previous to this wonderful sighting these tigers were seen nearby cuddling with each other.
It was quite early in the morning, where we were the first jeeps to enter 97 Waterhole to spot the tigers as it was seen at the same place the previous day but inside the bush. To our surprise both Gabbar and Maya were sitting in the open beside the waterhole. It was splendid to see them so close by and especially in the open.
They both were casually lying down beside the waterhole and after a while these two bold tigers started mating with each other right in front of us. It took place around 4 times. An exotic and a unique sighting as these things occur very rarely in front of tourists.
The interesting part in this story is about Maya. This tigress has 3 cubs currently which are around 10 months old. It would be interesting to know as to how those cubs would survive or will maya actually give birth to a new litter of cubs.
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— with Aravind Srinivasan at Tadoba - Andhari Tiger Reserve.


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I wonder what will happen with Maya's cubs,
Did she mate with Gabbar to throw him off the cubs scent?
Are the cubs Gabbars or one of the many other males she's mated with?
The last I saw, Maya was seen with Saturn, are the cubs his?

We all know how saturn and gabbar feel about each other.

Very interesting...
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Maya's cubs are bold just like her, I hope Gabbar manages to keep Matkasur out of Pandherpauni until another year or so but then theres 5-6 different male tigers being sighted there. a friend of mine spotted Navegon male, the elusive Giant of Kolara and the suspected son of Katezari male aka Kankajhari, Matkasur, Gabbar and an unknown male that also came from Kolara buffer and his identity is still a mystery. not sure what happened to Namdev aka Saturn and Katezari, they seemed to have vanished.
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Roflcopters Wrote:Maya's cubs are bold just like her, I hope Gabbar manages to keep Matkasur out of Pandherpauni until another year or so but then theres 5-6 different male tigers being sighted there. a friend of mine spotted Navegon male, the elusive Giant of Kolara and the suspected son of Katezari male aka Kankajhari, Matkasur, Gabbar and an unknown male that also came from Kolara buffer and his identity is still a mystery. not sure what happened to Namdev aka Saturn and Katezari, they seemed to have vanished.



Friends,

Monsoon closure is just 2 days away at all Parks and Tadoba. Those 3.5 months are going to be very interesting for Tadoba range. Yes, there are many males seen around Tadoba lake, pandherpauni and Jamni area. Matkasur, Saturn/namdev, Katezari, New navegaon male,  Yeda anna.  It remains to be seen how these cubs survive this critical time and emerge after park opens on 16 October. Another critical aspect is - 2 Cubs out of 3 are males. So more males in the area in future.

Sonam has also 2 male cubs. But I think they are more secure because Mohurli range has only 1 known male - their father Bajrang. 

On side note - Katezari is happy inside vasant bandhara area which is closed for tourism since last 1 year.  Saturn is said to be out of park on north side of navegaon.
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Its certainly going to be very interesting and decisive, I can almost feel the 2011-2014 era again. 2015 towards the end got full of action and it looks like 2016 monsoon is where the clashes will determine who stays and who doesnt. I have a feeling, Gabbar isnt going to leave that easily and hes a king of hard times, as evident by his past history around the area. Also im glad Saturn and Katezari are doing fine, I would like to see them resurface again. Tfs
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A couple more images of Pandu/Matkasur with his busted up nose
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/...s?from=mdr
ff big males from 1-year-old cubs by mating with them
Vijay Pinjarkar | TNN | Jun 27, 2016, 03.47 PM IST



Highlights

  1. Tigresses only desert their cubs when they are around 17-24 months.
  2. But Maya, the popular tigress of Pandharpaoni in TATR, has 'deserted' her three one-year-old cubs.
  3. She mates with big males to keep them away from her sub-adult cubs. Maya’s three cubs — 2 male and a female — have become elusive now.

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Nagpur: The rule among tigers, say scientists and wildlife experts, is that tigresses are very caring and only desert their cubs when they are around 17-24 months, and able to take care of themselves. However, Maya, the popular tigress of Pandharpaoni in Tadoba Andhari Tiger Reserve (TATR), has 'deserted' her three one-year-old cubs. She is even mating with big males coming into her area, to keep them away from her sub-adult cubs, who may be harmed by the other males. Maya's three cubs — 2 male and a female — were regularly sighted by tourists from March till June 10 near Pandharpaoni. However, the cubs have become elusive since Maya had run-ins with some male tigers in her territory.

There were rumours that the Matkasur male had attacked one male cub of Maya. Naturalist Himanshu Bagde had sighted Matkasur trailing Maya on June 10 from waterhole number 97. When he reached Pandharpaoni, Matkasur had charged at one of the cubs, and since then the cubs were not seen.


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Later, Maya was sighted with another male, Gabbar, at waterhole 97, where Matkasur and Gabbar had a fight. Matkasur conceded defeat and moved to Kosekanar area. Now, for the past four days, Maya has been mating with Gabbar. Tourists have pictures and videos of these encounters.

Officials, wildlife experts and tourists are baffled with Maya's unusual behaviour. "All I can say is that it is evident there is so much that we don't know about the social behaviour of tigers. This is why long-term field studies are absolutely essential," said Shekar Dattari, wildlife film-maker.


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CCF & field director of TATR GP Garad says, "There are always exceptions and this needs further research. But let me tell you, all the three cubs are safe. One male has already separated and one male and female are moving together. We were worried and were even thinking of feeding them but were told not to intervene."

However, Garad said the cubs have killed a barking deer, chital and a monkey too recently. The cubs, though, may not be able to kill large mammals. "We are closely monitoring the entire episode. I suspect mating of Maya is fake, to protect her cubs," he added.

Bilal Habib, scientist with Wildlife Institute of India (WII), Dehradun, said though it may sound unusual, areas having high tiger density are witnessing such incidents. "Maya's territory overlaps with four males. Mating with them is the best strategy she adopted to save cubs. Had Maya been defiant, she and her cubs could have been either harmed or killed by the other males," says Habib.

Habib believes that Maya would mate with the males but at the same time would come to meet her cubs, stay with them and even hunt for them. "Even if Maya mates, considering the gestation period of 90-120 days, her cubs will be independent by that time. The males are bigger in size and will have to move out a little early." he added.


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However, the same episode has not been repeated in Umred-Karhandla sanctuary since there was one male Jai, who knew that he was the father of all these cubs.

"In Tadoba, this may be usual as last year a 16-month-old male had dispersed from Kolsa and was recorded at New Nagzira on January 17, 2016. It travelled 140km. As the incident has happened in tourism zone, it came to light," says state wildlife board member Bandu Dhotre.

However, the same logic doesn't hold ground for buffer areas, where tigers like Big Daddy or Waghdoh male are very protective of their female and cubs. The male with tigress Aishwarya and three cubs were regularly sighted this summer in Dewada buffer zone outside Tadoba. "This is because Wagdoh male knows the cubs belong to him. This was true in the case of Telia tiger sisters earlier," says Habib.

Hence, in buffer, a cub stays for more time with his parents and gets perfect training. Contrary to this, in core, probability of survival is less. The best example is of a dispersing male of Tadoba's Chhoti Tara. It was killed by another male in April.

However, conservationist Prafulla Bhamburkar blamed it on excessive tourism. "It looks as if you are sighting tigers in an open zoo. Due to mobbing of tigers, their natural life-cycle has changed completely," he added.

How Drama Unfolded

* Maya, 3 cubs were star attraction at Pandharpaoni from March till June 10

* One of the male cubs was charged by Matkasur male, who was pursuing Maya, on June 10

* From June 10, Maya's cubs went into hiding and Maya was seen mating with males in her area.

* Cubs were sighted at different spots by tourists irregularly

* On June 22, Maya & Gabbar sighted at waterhole 97
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* Gabbar defeated Matkasur in a fight and mated with Maya for last four days

Pics By Himanshu Bagde clicked between June 22 and 24 at Tadoba

1,2,3: Rare pictures of tigers mating: Gabbar and Maya
4. Maya's young cubs with a kill
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Airstrip male vs Newington/Tu-Tones male.



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Sharad Kumar Vats The one on the ground is Umarpani right? or Kingfisher?

Naren Malik It umarpani on ground sir, but technically he won this fight as he never left this area though kf moved other side!

We are learning that even if the fight has a definitive outcome, if the loser refuses to surrender, they can actually "defeat" the more dominant tiger if said tiger doesn't want to continue the war.
These "less dominant" tigers are my favorite, they are willing to die for their territory, tigers like Munna and Gabbar. Although not the largest of tigers, they are the most tenacious. You may be able to beat them, but unless you kill them, you can surely bet they'll be back for more.
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Shaurya Reshamwala This picture is the first fight the video above is about 10 minutes later after they had fought in the bushes already and we're heading back out just before we caught the fight I the open

Shaurya Reshamwala Yea first fight happened in the bushes not far from the cars but could not see them then Umarpani chased kingfisher back out before the second fight after which umarpani went towards khapa scent marking while walking even though he was injured
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Brothers deciding who gets to mate first. Credits to The Big Picture Project.

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@Majingilane:

About #59: in lions like in men, only women can the, - inseparable comrades in arms or two leaders of a pride -, males fight each other. Another thing in common the lions have with us. So similar !
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(08-10-2016, 02:25 AM)Spalea Wrote: @Majingilane:

About #59: in lions like in men, only women can the, - inseparable comrades in arms or two leaders of a pride -, males fight each other. Another thing in common the lions have with us. So similar !

Jaja so true my friend.

The positive part is that the lions make peace not long after it, their bond is much stronger than a mere fight.

In this regard, we men have a lot to learn from them.
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