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Felids Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts

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(02-25-2019, 09:41 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:02 PM)Shadow Wrote:
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 tigress from nagzira think it's alisha attacking a leopard photo by Abhay Wadgire

Woah, did the leopard survived it? Doesn't look like it to be honest. Also, looks like a female leopard as an adult male would have been 2/3rd of her size.
Leopards come in many sizes but even the large males I saw in Africa and India would be small compared to most of the Female Tigers and Lions I've seen. You can even see the Vin Diesal Male which is said to he a 90+kg Male looks small compared to a Lioness. 


This Male Leopard is very lucky to escape but is said to be very badly injured so time will tell, hopefully he can make it. Leopards in India are much, much harder to spot so every one is important for tourism.
Is there somewhere more information about this incident? I mean one say now, that injured and one that very badly injured, there is quite big difference after all. At least it looked good in that photo, where it was on the tree. Or do we know only, that injured, but no more specific information?
If you read the thread on the photo you can see where the photographer says the leopard was badly injured.
Not sure what the difference is, I know you're looking for clarification but a Leopard was attacked by a Tiger, it's going to have some serious injuries. Unless you tranq. the leopard and give a full examination there's no way to know for sure based off an attack that surely ended with the Leopard fleeing for its life. In situations like that where the interaction happens fast, it's almost impossible to truly get intricate details, the attack happens to fast.

Well, there are many photos of lions and other animals with big gaping wounds and then some where some scratches and quite superficial wounds. That leopard looked good and I didn´t see the photographer to mention very badly injured in any comment, so naturally I got curious, when you commented like that. These situations can be over in 1-2 seconds, sometimes with minor, sometimes with serious injuries. But already it, that leopard could escape indicates, that the tiger didn´t get a good bite etc. But I guess, that there is no more information then about this case.
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(02-25-2019, 09:54 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:41 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:02 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 05:11 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 12:17 PM)Luipaard Wrote:
(02-24-2019, 06:55 PM)Rage2277 Wrote:
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 tigress from nagzira think it's alisha attacking a leopard photo by Abhay Wadgire

Woah, did the leopard survived it? Doesn't look like it to be honest. Also, looks like a female leopard as an adult male would have been 2/3rd of her size.
Leopards come in many sizes but even the large males I saw in Africa and India would be small compared to most of the Female Tigers and Lions I've seen. You can even see the Vin Diesal Male which is said to he a 90+kg Male looks small compared to a Lioness. 


This Male Leopard is very lucky to escape but is said to be very badly injured so time will tell, hopefully he can make it. Leopards in India are much, much harder to spot so every one is important for tourism.
Is there somewhere more information about this incident? I mean one say now, that injured and one that very badly injured, there is quite big difference after all. At least it looked good in that photo, where it was on the tree. Or do we know only, that injured, but no more specific information?
If you read the thread on the photo you can see where the photographer says the leopard was badly injured.
Not sure what the difference is, I know you're looking for clarification but a Leopard was attacked by a Tiger, it's going to have some serious injuries. Unless you tranq. the leopard and give a full examination there's no way to know for sure based off an attack that surely ended with the Leopard fleeing for its life. In situations like that where the interaction happens fast, it's almost impossible to truly get intricate details, the attack happens to fast.

Well, there are many photos of lions and other animals with big gaping wounds and then some where some scratches and quite superficial wounds. That leopard looked good and I didn´t see the photographer to mention very badly injured in any comment, so naturally I got curious, when you commented like that. These situations can be over in 1-2 seconds, sometimes with minor, sometimes with serious injuries. But already it, that leopard could escape indicates, that the tiger didn´t get a good bite etc. But I guess, that there is no more information then about this case.
Deepak Chaddha
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 Mg Nithyananda escaped but injured bad.
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( This post was last modified: 02-25-2019, 10:32 PM by Shadow )

(02-25-2019, 10:13 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:54 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:41 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:02 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 05:11 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 12:17 PM)Luipaard Wrote:
(02-24-2019, 06:55 PM)Rage2277 Wrote:
*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author
 tigress from nagzira think it's alisha attacking a leopard photo by Abhay Wadgire

Woah, did the leopard survived it? Doesn't look like it to be honest. Also, looks like a female leopard as an adult male would have been 2/3rd of her size.
Leopards come in many sizes but even the large males I saw in Africa and India would be small compared to most of the Female Tigers and Lions I've seen. You can even see the Vin Diesal Male which is said to he a 90+kg Male looks small compared to a Lioness. 


This Male Leopard is very lucky to escape but is said to be very badly injured so time will tell, hopefully he can make it. Leopards in India are much, much harder to spot so every one is important for tourism.
Is there somewhere more information about this incident? I mean one say now, that injured and one that very badly injured, there is quite big difference after all. At least it looked good in that photo, where it was on the tree. Or do we know only, that injured, but no more specific information?
If you read the thread on the photo you can see where the photographer says the leopard was badly injured.
Not sure what the difference is, I know you're looking for clarification but a Leopard was attacked by a Tiger, it's going to have some serious injuries. Unless you tranq. the leopard and give a full examination there's no way to know for sure based off an attack that surely ended with the Leopard fleeing for its life. In situations like that where the interaction happens fast, it's almost impossible to truly get intricate details, the attack happens to fast.

Well, there are many photos of lions and other animals with big gaping wounds and then some where some scratches and quite superficial wounds. That leopard looked good and I didn´t see the photographer to mention very badly injured in any comment, so naturally I got curious, when you commented like that. These situations can be over in 1-2 seconds, sometimes with minor, sometimes with serious injuries. But already it, that leopard could escape indicates, that the tiger didn´t get a good bite etc. But I guess, that there is no more information then about this case.
Deepak Chaddha
*This image is copyright of its original author
 Mg Nithyananda escaped but injured bad.
https://www.facebook.com/search/str/Abhay+Wadgire+claw/keywords_search?epa=SEARCH_BOX

Ok, so there was other one writing about that too :) I read what this Abhay Wadgire wrote and he didn´t mention like that, this was what I saw from him:

"After the leopard, the leopard threw the tiger and saved the life. The battle took place in 10 to 12 seconds, when the photo we received was in front of you."
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But when I see written very badly injured, I prepare myself to see something like this usually, I mean something which is almost certain death if not getting medical help:





If injured badly, at least limping or some bigger wound is something what I would expect to see. Even though naturally also small wound can get infected if unlucky. But hopefully that leopard made it, at least it could climb to the tree, hopefully no broken bones.
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( This post was last modified: 02-25-2019, 10:51 PM by Pckts )

(02-25-2019, 10:31 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 10:13 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:54 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:41 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:02 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 05:11 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 12:17 PM)Luipaard Wrote:
(02-24-2019, 06:55 PM)Rage2277 Wrote:
*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author
 tigress from nagzira think it's alisha attacking a leopard photo by Abhay Wadgire

Woah, did the leopard survived it? Doesn't look like it to be honest. Also, looks like a female leopard as an adult male would have been 2/3rd of her size.
Leopards come in many sizes but even the large males I saw in Africa and India would be small compared to most of the Female Tigers and Lions I've seen. You can even see the Vin Diesal Male which is said to he a 90+kg Male looks small compared to a Lioness. 


This Male Leopard is very lucky to escape but is said to be very badly injured so time will tell, hopefully he can make it. Leopards in India are much, much harder to spot so every one is important for tourism.
Is there somewhere more information about this incident? I mean one say now, that injured and one that very badly injured, there is quite big difference after all. At least it looked good in that photo, where it was on the tree. Or do we know only, that injured, but no more specific information?
If you read the thread on the photo you can see where the photographer says the leopard was badly injured.
Not sure what the difference is, I know you're looking for clarification but a Leopard was attacked by a Tiger, it's going to have some serious injuries. Unless you tranq. the leopard and give a full examination there's no way to know for sure based off an attack that surely ended with the Leopard fleeing for its life. In situations like that where the interaction happens fast, it's almost impossible to truly get intricate details, the attack happens to fast.

Well, there are many photos of lions and other animals with big gaping wounds and then some where some scratches and quite superficial wounds. That leopard looked good and I didn´t see the photographer to mention very badly injured in any comment, so naturally I got curious, when you commented like that. These situations can be over in 1-2 seconds, sometimes with minor, sometimes with serious injuries. But already it, that leopard could escape indicates, that the tiger didn´t get a good bite etc. But I guess, that there is no more information then about this case.
Deepak Chaddha
*This image is copyright of its original author
 Mg Nithyananda escaped but injured bad.
https://www.facebook.com/search/str/Abhay+Wadgire+claw/keywords_search?epa=SEARCH_BOX

Ok, so there was other one writing about that too :) I read what this Abhay Wagdire wrote and he didn´t mention like that, this was what I saw from him:

"After the leopard, the leopard threw the tiger and saved the life. The battle took place in 10 to 12 seconds, when the photo we received was in front of you."
So what are you saying exactly?
Do you think the Leopard sustained no injuries or you just don't consider an injury bad until you see and are able to assess yourself?
An injured paw can be worse than a missing eye, it just depends.

It's attacked by an animal  at least double it's size with larger teeth and claws, I highly doubt he's escaping unscathed. He hardly looks healthy in that tree as well, frothing profusely at the mouth, hunched over and looking weak. 

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(02-25-2019, 10:49 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 10:31 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 10:13 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:54 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:41 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 09:02 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 05:11 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(02-25-2019, 12:17 PM)Luipaard Wrote:
(02-24-2019, 06:55 PM)Rage2277 Wrote:
*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author
 tigress from nagzira think it's alisha attacking a leopard photo by Abhay Wadgire

Woah, did the leopard survived it? Doesn't look like it to be honest. Also, looks like a female leopard as an adult male would have been 2/3rd of her size.
Leopards come in many sizes but even the large males I saw in Africa and India would be small compared to most of the Female Tigers and Lions I've seen. You can even see the Vin Diesal Male which is said to he a 90+kg Male looks small compared to a Lioness. 


This Male Leopard is very lucky to escape but is said to be very badly injured so time will tell, hopefully he can make it. Leopards in India are much, much harder to spot so every one is important for tourism.
Is there somewhere more information about this incident? I mean one say now, that injured and one that very badly injured, there is quite big difference after all. At least it looked good in that photo, where it was on the tree. Or do we know only, that injured, but no more specific information?
If you read the thread on the photo you can see where the photographer says the leopard was badly injured.
Not sure what the difference is, I know you're looking for clarification but a Leopard was attacked by a Tiger, it's going to have some serious injuries. Unless you tranq. the leopard and give a full examination there's no way to know for sure based off an attack that surely ended with the Leopard fleeing for its life. In situations like that where the interaction happens fast, it's almost impossible to truly get intricate details, the attack happens to fast.

Well, there are many photos of lions and other animals with big gaping wounds and then some where some scratches and quite superficial wounds. That leopard looked good and I didn´t see the photographer to mention very badly injured in any comment, so naturally I got curious, when you commented like that. These situations can be over in 1-2 seconds, sometimes with minor, sometimes with serious injuries. But already it, that leopard could escape indicates, that the tiger didn´t get a good bite etc. But I guess, that there is no more information then about this case.
Deepak Chaddha
*This image is copyright of its original author
 Mg Nithyananda escaped but injured bad.
https://www.facebook.com/search/str/Abhay+Wadgire+claw/keywords_search?epa=SEARCH_BOX

Ok, so there was other one writing about that too :) I read what this Abhay Wagdire wrote and he didn´t mention like that, this was what I saw from him:

"After the leopard, the leopard threw the tiger and saved the life. The battle took place in 10 to 12 seconds, when the photo we received was in front of you."
So what are you saying exactly?
Do you think the Leopard sustained no injuries or you just don't consider an injury bad until you see and are able to assess yourself?
An injured paw can be worse than a missing eye, it just depends.

It's attacked by an animal  at least double it's size with larger teeth and claws, I highly doubt he's escaping unscathed. He hardly looks healthy in that tree as well, frothing profusely at the mouth, hunched over and looking weak. 

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I just clarified what I mean when mentioning very badly injured compared to what I understand with something less. When seeing an animal in photo looking quite fine and then one saying injured and another one very badly injured, I see there a big difference and that´s why I asked in the first place if there is more information :) Because there was a big contradiction for me.

So it was nice to see that there was something, which I had missed then. But alone it, that tiger attacks a leopard doesn´t mean for me automatically severe injures because many times situations are fast and if bigger animal doesn´t get a good grip, smaller one can escape with minor injuries leaving just a few scars. 

But mostly I am saying, that when using "big words", of course it is nice to see more reasoning and justification why saying so. Especially if from photo can´t be seen anything so special.
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This is what uploader said: "leopard threw away the tiger and then took shelter on a tree"

Now we all know that didn't literally happen, think he means that the leopard fended off the tiger which beyond amazing. That tiger is double his size and pounced from behind with a complete unaware leopard.

No matter what others say, to me the leopard is pound for pound the strongest cat.
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(02-25-2019, 11:15 PM)Luipaard Wrote: This is what uploader said: "leopard threw away the tiger and then took shelter on a tree"

Now we all know that didn't literally happen, think he means that the leopard fended off the tiger which beyond amazing. That tiger is double his size and pounced from behind with a complete unaware leopard.

No matter what others say, to me the leopard is pound for pound the strongest cat.

Well, this one was lucky at least. After all tiger was all over it, but in some way it managed to get out of that situation and escape. Pound for pound estimations are more or less opinion based discussions or disputes in lack of comparable studies really... so I find such topics actually quite boring yes-no situations :) It is a pity, that it seems, that no-one checked that place afterwards and if leopard was there or not, blood marks etc. If not for any other reason, just to give some more information for curious people. Surprising how many times people see an interesting situation, but then they put there so little text about their observations. This kind of incidents are quite interesting and I think, that people could use that extra minute or two to tell how some situation ended, when photos are telling obviously only part of it what happened.
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Found this one on Facebook: 

"Sub-Adult Tiger Cub trying to catch Leopard.."


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Watch the whole, on mute is better Wink
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(02-23-2019, 03:47 PM)Luipaard Wrote: Epic video of a big male leopard, who charges at wild dogs, becomes surrounded and eventually flees WITH their kill! The wild dogs don't even dare to press an attack, all they could do was watch. Although (male) leopards are known to steal kills from wild dogs, this is a rare video




Whoa!! Looks like male leopards are bolder than I thought, have you seen that other video of that other leopard chasing off 9 painted dogs and taking their kill? I honestly have no idea how this is even possible.

(02-28-2019, 09:52 PM)Pckts Wrote: Watch the whole, on mute is better Wink

Well that settles it, hyenas are WAY awesome than what Disney would have you believe.
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(03-01-2019, 04:31 AM)smedz Wrote:
(02-23-2019, 03:47 PM)Luipaard Wrote: Epic video of a big male leopard, who charges at wild dogs, becomes surrounded and eventually flees WITH their kill! The wild dogs don't even dare to press an attack, all they could do was watch. Although (male) leopards are known to steal kills from wild dogs, this is a rare video




Whoa!! Looks like male leopards are bolder than I thought, have you seen that other video of that other leopard chasing off 9 painted dogs and taking their kill? I honestly have no idea how this is even possible.

Leopards, especially males, have stolen kills from packs of wild dogs on numerous occasions:













Hyena's also have to look out for a leopard scavenging





Or what about a leopard chasing lionesses off his kill?!

"The other guides had equally good mornings, and watched some wonderful interaction as Makepisi male leopard and the two Jacaranda lionesses that had stolen his kill! Miraculously, he stalked back in and frightened them off and managed to salvage a piece of the kill before moving off."

Source: http://motswariblog.blogspot.com/2012/10/12th-and-13th-october-wet-wet-wet.html?m=1
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