(07-07-2020, 05:16 PM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-07-2020, 04:41 PM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: 140kg Southern Pantanal male Onça Pintada.


I was on a special mission and managed to do an in depth research on the 140kg southern pantanal male jaguar who unfortunately got ran over and died on the highway of Mato Grosso do Sul in the region of South Pantanal.

After a while I managed to find a video where the enviormental police took the dead beast to a place where they made a footage of the massive jag.

I managed to find it from a brazilian TV channel who manage to reveal the footage to the public through their news about the accident with the jaguar.

The reporter woman said the big cat got ran over in the highway BR-262 in Miranda in the South Pantanal area and by the impact with the vehicle the 140kg male jaguar suffered head fractures and internal bleeding.


The dead animal could be stuffed to be used for enviormental education.


And yes she said he weighed 140kg.


The person who ran over the big cat was not identified.



Here are the photos of different angles of the beast other than that regular single one we always used to see.

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Just imagine the measurements of his Thorax Circumference.  

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Video of the News on TV.

More clear Images

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Other video of the beast.

credits: TV O Pantaneiro

Doesn't look 140kg to me, I wonder if it's just an estimation.

(07-13-2020, 07:57 PM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: I just got the size of one of the rival Central Pantanal males monitored by Crashaw and Panthera in Acurizal back in 2011-2012 from the amazing article by Peter G. Crawshaw Jr and Allison Devlin.

One of the males was a dominant male named Big George male who got dethroned by Coração male ( heart in portuguese ) in 2012.

Big Gorge name was an homage to George Schaller.


As I was in contact with Crawshaw to get their weights he told me only one of the males was captured.

He told me Big George weighed 100kg.

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About the other male he said Coração wasn't captured, his size was only estimated by Allison of 115kg.



100kg Big George male. credits:Allison Devlin/Panthera.

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Coração male ( heart ) estimated to be 115kg. credits:Allison Devlin/Panthera.

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@OncaAtrox

You gotta open a new Area in the middle of the table for Central Pantanal Jaguars, between north/south.


ID                 Weight           Source                Area                          Age
Big George   100kg           Panthera         Central Pantanal         Adult

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@OncaAtrox

Despite adding Big George to the pantanal table there's another adult male comfirmed of 100kg who as you saw just a few days ago on my post in the Jaguars of Brazil thread this male was one of the jaguars that was predating on many horses In the Private Reserve Patrimônio Natural - Acurizal (RPPN), he weighed 100kg verified and also was monitored with collar by researchers of the species so lets add him to the table as well.

And since we don't know his ID until we figure out who he is lets call him ''Horse Killer'' that way it'll be easier to know.


ID                   Weight           Source                                  Area                           Age
Horse Killer     100kg    Unknown but Comfirmed.      Central Pantanal         Adult      

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@"OncaAtrox"

Did you already add Leão ( lion ) Cerrado male from my last post above to the Cerrado jags table??


here's the link of the Cerrado males page table bellow.

https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-modern-weights-and-measurements-of-jaguars?page=17

(07-10-2020, 05:42 PM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: 2 Varjão do Paranazão/Porto Primavera adult male Jaguars.

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http://aesbrasilsustentabilidade.com.br/upload/file/biblioteca/biblioteca_142_file1_conflitos-com-mamferos-carnvoros.pdf

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STUDY OF CASES.

Onça-Pintada (Panthera Onca) translocation experiments in the Upper Paraná River - 1994/1998.

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1st male:  Weighed 122kg, 56cm on tail length and measured 151cm in total.

Translocation 1994:

''A male jaguar was captured in 05/24/94 in the municipality of Caiuá, in the vicinity of Presidente Epitácio, SP, at the request of the CESP offices of that city and Porto Primavera, for predation of domestic animals and an alleged potential risk to human lives. With 122 kg of weight, 151 cm of total length, of which 56 cm corresponded to the tail, it was equipped with a radio-collar and while still sedated it was transported and released the same day in an area at a linear distance of approximately 35 km, in the municipality of Anaurilândia, MS.''


Peter Crawshaw and the 122kg male Jaguar in 1994.

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2nd male:  Weighed 112kg.

''A healthy adult male jaguar of 112kg and estimated age of between 4-5 years was captured in the forest of a tributary gallery on the left bank of the Paraná River, in the municipality of Marabá Paulista SP. The capture was carried out by a specialized technical team using dogs specially trained for the capture of large cats. During the sedation the animal was equipped with radio collar and material was collected for sanitary and genetic studies. The release was done on the same day (abrupt release) on the opposite bank of the Paraná River, 152km southwest in the state of Mato Grosso do Sul, downstream from the barrage of the Porto Primavera.''

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(07-31-2020, 03:33 AM)Dark Jaguar Wrote:

(07-10-2020, 05:42 PM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: 2 Varjão do Paranazão/Porto Primavera adult male Jaguars.

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STUDY OF CASES.

Onça-Pintada (Panthera Onca) translocation experiments in the Upper Paraná River - 1994/1998.

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1st male:  Weighed 122kg, 56cm on tail length and measured 151cm in total.

Translocation 1994:

''A male jaguar was captured in 05/24/94 in the municipality of Caiuá, in the vicinity of Presidente Epitácio, SP, at the request of the CESP offices of that city and Porto Primavera, for predation of domestic animals and an alleged potential risk to human lives. With 122 kg of weight, 151 cm of total length, of which 56 cm corresponded to the tail, it was equipped with a radio-collar and while still sedated it was transported and released the same day in an area at a linear distance of approximately 35 km, in the municipality of Anaurilândia, MS.''


Peter Crawshaw and the 122kg male Jaguar in 1994.

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2nd male:  Weighed 112kg.

''A healthy adult male jaguar of 112kg and estimated age of between 4-5 years was captured in the forest of a tributary gallery on the left bank of the Paraná River, in the municipality of Marabá Paulista SP. The capture was carried out by a specialized technical team using dogs specially trained for the capture of large cats. During the sedation the animal was equipped with radio collar and material was collected for sanitary and genetic studies. The release was done on the same day (abrupt release) on the opposite bank of the Paraná River, 152km southwest in the state of Mato Grosso do Sul, downstream from the barrage of the Porto Primavera.''

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THORAX CIRCUMFERENCES OF 3 VARJÃO DO PARANAZÃO JAGUARS - CURRENTLY PORTO PRIMAVERA  - BRAZIL.

I told and showed Crawshaw Jokers chest measurements and he provided me the Thorax Circumferences of 3 Porto Primavera Jaguars.

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First one was Pita male, the largest one ever captured by Crawshaw, he weighed 130 kg and measured 114 cm of thorax circumference.

Second one was Suely female. She weighed 77 kg and measured 96 cm of thorax circumference.

Third and lastly a male Dark Jaguar named Zezão. He weighed 110 kg and measured 99 cm of thorax circumference.

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As you all can see Pita male on thorax circumference was 12 cm thinner than Joker, 6 cm thicker than Shaka and 15 cm thicker than Zezão melanistic male.

Speaking of Shaka I showed him a couple of photos and the measurements of Shaka male, I told him Shaka full bellied weighed 131.4 kg and empty 118 kg and I compared him with Pita male of 130 kg.

He said Shaka appears to be a battered and old male, already passed his prime and on younger days Shaka must have been even larger with greater measurements dimensions than when he was captured.


Crawshaw also mentioned the females captured in Porto Primavera were very uniform in terms of size, there were many of 75 kg and others just a little bit heavier as we can see with Suely.

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I wonder how thick was the thorax circumference of that massive 125 kg male Dark Jaguar ( the same one who crushed a dog just by the fall off a tree  ) unfortunately poached by Platero in the 90's at Fazenda Santa Clara - Porto Primavera - Brazil.

(07-31-2020, 05:46 AM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: @"OncaAtrox"

Its impressive him being so full and that belly alone putting a bunch of weight, if a full male jaguar carries 13+ kg of meat in their bellies just imagine how much meat a full adult male Lion would carry, no wonder they look like balloons when lied down and full bellied haha.

Only Onçafari who captured Shaka may be able to answer that or probably the 118 kg empty was an estimation since on their official page it says he was monitored in 2017 and captured in 2018 and weighed 131.6 kg.



@Pckts

Did the onçafari biologist tell you Shaka was captured and weighed twice? and one of which was 118kg ??

I wonder how thick Sombra and Brutus males thorax circumferences were, they both appear to be similar in body girth with only 2 kg of difference, but only the real circumferences dimensions measurements revealed will tell.