There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
10-26-2024, 01:53 PM( This post was last modified: 10-26-2024, 02:19 PM by Hello )
@johnny rex South African/ Kruger male at Jacksonville zoo, US. His dad is From Kruger and maternal grandparents from Kruger. The successor to this male was named Catali who was an Etosha lion who was born to Mbali and either Uma/ Okoa at Basel, Switzerland.
11-07-2024, 06:17 PM( This post was last modified: 11-26-2024, 05:45 PM by Hello )
Southern African lion named Tandie at Woodland park zoo, US. He lost his mane because of testosterone inhibitors, Not neutered. Cave lions might've looked like this. Compact looking lion, not overweight. https://blog.zoo.org/2022/11/tandie-lion...utfor.html
A 3-year old male lion still has a bit of growing in front of him. In his prime, the 556-pound (252,2 kg) youngster could get to 600 pounds or a bit more. Very impressive male in excellent shape! Anything known about his father?
(11-27-2024, 02:23 AM)epaiva Wrote: Female Jaguar in Parque del Este, Caracas, Venezuela
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EPAIVA
If this is a female, one starts to wonder about the size of an adult male jaguar. Splendid animal. Any jaguar research going on in Venezuela?
PETER
She is a female from Los Llanos, in that region they are very large second in size only to the ones in El Pantanal. In the good old days they were as large as the ones from El Pantanal, sadly they were over hunted and their numbers are low today. I don’t think they are doing a research on them this days, situation in Venezuela is not good but I think next year everything will change for good in Venezuela.
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11-27-2024, 08:46 AM( This post was last modified: 11-27-2024, 08:58 AM by peter )
(11-27-2024, 07:11 AM)epaiva Wrote:
(11-27-2024, 04:57 AM)peter Wrote:
(11-27-2024, 02:23 AM)epaiva Wrote: Female Jaguar in Parque del Este, Caracas, Venezuela
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EPAIVA
If this is a female, one starts to wonder about the size of an adult male jaguar. Splendid animal. Any jaguar research going on in Venezuela?
PETER
She is a female from Los Llanos, in that region they are very large second in size only to the ones in El Pantanal. In the good old days they were as large as the ones from El Pantanal, sadly they were over hunted and their numbers are low today. I don’t think they are doing a research on them this days, situation in Venezuela is not good but I think next year everything will change for good in Venezuela.
Sorry about the capitals, my friend. It's an old habit. I think about Venezuela every now and then. Wanted to go there when I had a girlfriend from Suriname a few decades ago, but it didn't happen. In Suriname, I visited a man who caught, and sold, wild animals. He graduated in Berlin (Germany) during World War Two (...). Not someone you want to meet out in the jungle, but he knew about wild animals.
The jaguars he had, although adult, were quite small. I read a few books that had good information about jaguars and pumas shot in Suriname in the days it still was a Dutch colony. I saw some of the skulls described in these books in the Naturalis Museum in Leiden and the former Zoological Museum of the Artis Zoo in Amsterdam. They were bigger than I thought, but I later found jaguars have relatively large and robust skulls.
The largest jaguar I saw was a circus male. His trainer said he was interested in an interview, but he declined when I arrived. He told me he was done with the jaguar, an immense melanistic male. The trainer had worked with big cats and bears, but apparently underestimated the jaguar. He said they were very strong-willed and dangerous. It had an effect on him. I later heard he quit a few days after I visited him. The jaguar was sent to a zoo I later visited. The keeper told me he kept his distance from the male. The vet of the zoo confirmed captive jaguars had a bad reputation in European zoos. I know of different cases of females killed by males, but this is quite common in captive lions and, in particular, tigers.
Every now and then, a photograph of a giant jaguar caught (or shot) in Suriname pops up. Strange considering the average size of a Surinam jaguar. Anything known about migration patterns? For a jaguar, the distance between Suriname and Venezuela seems to be quite in reach.
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11-27-2024, 05:22 PM( This post was last modified: 11-27-2024, 05:23 PM by epaiva )
(11-27-2024, 08:46 AM)peter Wrote:
(11-27-2024, 07:11 AM)epaiva Wrote:
(11-27-2024, 04:57 AM)peter Wrote:
(11-27-2024, 02:23 AM)epaiva Wrote: Female Jaguar in Parque del Este, Caracas, Venezuela
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EPAIVA
If this is a female, one starts to wonder about the size of an adult male jaguar. Splendid animal. Any jaguar research going on in Venezuela?
PETER
She is a female from Los Llanos, in that region they are very large second in size only to the ones in El Pantanal. In the good old days they were as large as the ones from El Pantanal, sadly they were over hunted and their numbers are low today. I don’t think they are doing a research on them this days, situation in Venezuela is not good but I think next year everything will change for good in Venezuela.
Sorry about the capitals, my friend. It's an old habit. I think about Venezuela every now and then. Wanted to go there when I had a girlfriend from Suriname a few decades ago, but it didn't happen. In Suriname, I visited a man who caught, and sold, wild animals. He graduated in Berlin (Germany) during World War Two (...). Not someone you want to meet out in the jungle, but he knew about wild animals.
The jaguars he had, although adult, were quite small. I read a few books that had good information about jaguars and pumas shot in Suriname in the days it still was a Dutch colony. I saw some of the skulls described in these books in the Naturalis Museum in Leiden and the former Zoological Museum of the Artis Zoo in Amsterdam. They were bigger than I thought, but I later found jaguars have relatively large and robust skulls.
The largest jaguar I saw was a circus male. His trainer said he was interested in an interview, but he declined when I arrived. He told me he was done with the jaguar, an immense melanistic male. The trainer had worked with big cats and bears, but apparently underestimated the jaguar. He said they were very strong-willed and dangerous. It had an effect on him. I later heard he quit a few days after I visited him. The jaguar was sent to a zoo I later visited. The keeper told me he kept his distance from the male. The vet of the zoo confirmed captive jaguars had a bad reputation in European zoos. I know of different cases of females killed by males, but this is quite common in captive lions and, in particular, tigers.
Every now and then, a photograph of a giant jaguar caught (or shot) in Suriname pops up. Strange considering the average size of a Surinam jaguar. Anything known about migration patterns? For a jaguar, the distance between Suriname and Venezuela seems to be quite in reach.
Peter Jaguars in the jungles of Venezuela are the smaller ones, Jaguars closer to Suriname are very small compared to the Jaguars you find in Los Llanos
11-27-2024, 06:52 PM( This post was last modified: 11-27-2024, 06:54 PM by Hello )
Regarding #2304, His name is Henry. No info about Henry's weight, but he is a bulky animal and so is his (Deuce's) mum. Both mum and dad are of Kalahari origin (Botswana).
Parents, Henry and Vilas
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Studbook numbers of Henry, Vilas and Deuce according to south African lion studbook
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He is a zoologist who has a very good knowledge about origin and genetics of captive lions across the world.
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(11-27-2024, 02:23 AM)epaiva Wrote: Female Jaguar in Parque del Este, Caracas, Venezuela
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EPAIVA
If this is a female, one starts to wonder about the size of an adult male jaguar. Splendid animal. Any jaguar research going on in Venezuela?
PETER
She is a female from Los Llanos, in that region they are very large second in size only to the ones in El Pantanal. In the good old days they were as large as the ones from El Pantanal, sadly they were over hunted and their numbers are low today. I don’t think they are doing a research on them this days, situation in Venezuela is not good but I think next year everything will change for good in Venezuela.
Sorry about the capitals, my friend. It's an old habit. I think about Venezuela every now and then. Wanted to go there when I had a girlfriend from Suriname a few decades ago, but it didn't happen. In Suriname, I visited a man who caught, and sold, wild animals. He graduated in Berlin (Germany) during World War Two (...). Not someone you want to meet out in the jungle, but he knew about wild animals.
The jaguars he had, although adult, were quite small. I read a few books that had good information about jaguars and pumas shot in Suriname in the days it still was a Dutch colony. I saw some of the skulls described in these books in the Naturalis Museum in Leiden and the former Zoological Museum of the Artis Zoo in Amsterdam. They were bigger than I thought, but I later found jaguars have relatively large and robust skulls.
The largest jaguar I saw was a circus male. His trainer said he was interested in an interview, but he declined when I arrived. He told me he was done with the jaguar, an immense melanistic male. The trainer had worked with big cats and bears, but apparently underestimated the jaguar. He said they were very strong-willed and dangerous. It had an effect on him. I later heard he quit a few days after I visited him. The jaguar was sent to a zoo I later visited. The keeper told me he kept his distance from the male. The vet of the zoo confirmed captive jaguars had a bad reputation in European zoos. I know of different cases of females killed by males, but this is quite common in captive lions and, in particular, tigers.
Every now and then, a photograph of a giant jaguar caught (or shot) in Suriname pops up. Strange considering the average size of a Surinam jaguar. Anything known about migration patterns? For a jaguar, the distance between Suriname and Venezuela seems to be quite in reach.
Peter don’t worry about the capitals it is ok for me my Good Friend, Jaguars in the jungles of Venezuela are the smaller ones, Jaguars closer to Suriname are very small compared to the Jaguars you find in Los Llanos
Zoos, Circuses, Safaris: A Gallery of Captivity
