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Tigers of Central India

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Male tiger comes to Nauradehi from Panna Tiger Reserve, new female to be introduced for him.

Weeks after the release of tiger pair Radha and Kishan, an unidentified male tiger, presumably from the Panna Tiger Reserve has reached the Nauradehi Sanctuary though the forest corridors, following the footprints of its ancestors.

(07-06-2018, 04:18 AM)Rishi Wrote: Radha & Kishan

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Information about the movement of third tiger in Naoradehi were being received from the villagers for last few days.

Forest officials say that this tiger is an expert in hunting & has brought down two preys in the last 4 days.

With the arrival of this third tiger, to avoid his conflict with Kishan over Radha, the officials of Nauradehi are now planning to bring a new tigress.

Presently the Forest Department is looking for the new male, but haven't been able to locate him yet.

https://mnaidunia.jagran.com/madhya-pradesh/tigeress-will-come-in-nauradehi-sanctuary-to-enhance-tiger-family-1825961
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angry young tiger...with dreadful eyes...courageous appearance...masculine attitude...

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That Balaghat male is definitely a Tadoba breed, could also be from Brahmapuri and Nagzira. you’re right rage221. Any info on him @Pckts
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(07-24-2018, 08:29 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(07-24-2018, 11:11 AM)Rage2277 Wrote:
(07-24-2018, 03:32 AM)Pckts Wrote: Balaghat Male, Kanha
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this guy looks like the tadoba breed

More of him... I believe he's one of Uma's older sons, he's ran off MV1 out of the Khapa buffer zone back to the Core area.


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@Roflcopters
He's a Kanha male said to possibly be Uma's older son but nothing confirmed, he's pushed MV1 back to the core area.
He's was first seen last year in Khappa Buffer zone, he's said to be a smaller male but tough.


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"Here you go! 

Should I call it last safari of season or first safari of off-season?
Khapa Zone of Kanha amazed us this evening when this beautiful male walked towards us! Now moving home happily after this fantastic sighting."



I have my doubts of any Tiger trekking from Tadoba all the way to Kanha, sure they could be it'd be an extremely rare event.
It's like a 9 hour drive on paved roads, can't imagine how long that would take through the dense forest while avoiding paved roads and human activity. 
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He is definitely not a Kanha male judging by his face and doesn’t look anything like Umarpani male, i know it’s hard for people to believe but tigers do use corridors more frequently than some people might think. I know of atleast 5 cases, one bizarre case of a female from Central India that settled down in Northern India. Im willing to bet his ancestry is either from Nagzira, Tadoba or Brahmapuri. what a stud!
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(07-31-2018, 11:09 AM)Roflcopters Wrote: He is definitely not a Kanha male judging by his face and doesn’t look anything like Umarpani male, i know it’s hard for people to believe but tigers do use corridors more frequently than some people might think. I know of atleast 5 cases, one bizarre case of a female from Central India that settled down in Northern India. Im willing to bet his ancestry is either from Nagzira, Tadoba or Brahmapuri. what a stud!

Of course, but those events are rare and having seen the distance with my own eyes as well as the human presence, a journey like that would be extraordinary. 
Even Jais journey was only 160km I believe, compared to the 413km thats required to do the Tadoba-Kanha journey.
The odds of him being from Tadoba are extremely unlikely in my opinion, I know his look resembles Tadoba Tigers but even tigers with in the same reserve can look very different from one another.
T2 and the New male seen in Kanha recently both look very distinct from most of the other Kanha Males and you can say the same for some males in Bandhavgarh and Pench as well. 
I'm not ruling it out, I just find it very unlikely is all.
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(07-31-2018, 11:22 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(07-31-2018, 11:09 AM)Roflcopters Wrote: He is definitely not a Kanha male judging by his face and doesn’t look anything like Umarpani male, i know it’s hard for people to believe but tigers do use corridors more frequently than some people might think. I know of atleast 5 cases, one bizarre case of a female from Central India that settled down in Northern India. Im willing to bet his ancestry is either from Nagzira, Tadoba or Brahmapuri. what a stud!

Of course, but those events are rare and having seen the distance with my own eyes as well as the human presence, a journey like that would be extraordinary. 
Even Jais journey was only 160km I believe, compared to the 413km thats required to do the Tadoba-Kanha journey.
The odds of him being from Tadoba are extremely unlikely in my opinion, I know his look resembles Tadoba Tigers but even tigers with in the same reserve can look very different from one another.
T2 and the New male seen in Kanha recently both look very distinct from most of the other Kanha Males and you can say the same for some males in Bandhavgarh and Pench as well. 
I'm not ruling it out, I just find it very unlikely is all.

They don't necessarily come directly from Tadoba, not in one generation. Kanha regularly exchanges genes with the population of Balaghat Forest Division, which in turn is connected directly to Nagzira-Navegaon landscape & indirectly to Tadoba.

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(03-13-2018, 11:51 AM)Rishi Wrote: The newcomer Balaghat male of Kanha Tiger Reserve! (from ToK)

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@Roflcopters is right about one thing... the male looks nothing like Umarpani. Even if this male is his progeny, it's more probable than not that he carries Maharashtra's blood from the mother's (maternal grandfather's more likely) side...
It's not that rare either. The region from you passed through houses people relocated from Kanha core, settled along the roads. Less than 10 kms away, on all sides, were large forest tracts along the hills, with resident tigers in most of them.
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( This post was last modified: 08-01-2018, 09:54 PM by Pckts )

"They don't necessarily come directly from Tadoba, not in one generation. Kanha regularly exchanges genes with the population of Balaghat Forest Division, which in turn is connected directly to Nagzira-Navegaon landscape & indirectly to Tadoba."

Of course, I was speaking in terms of that specific tiger making the trek. I'd assume all parks in C. India have genetic diversity from most other parks, obviously less so now than in the past like you see in Ranthambore, since their corridors aren't what they once were and the human interference probably disturbs their natural search for new territories. 
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(08-01-2018, 09:47 PM)Pckts Wrote: ...I'd assume all parks in C. India have genetic diversity from most other parks, obviously less so now than in the past like you see in Ranthambore, since their corridors aren't what they once were and the human interference probably disturbs their natural search for new territories. 

Regarding that:

Quote:Rajasthan fails to ensure genetic diversity of tigers at Mukundara: NTCA to High Court
July 10, 2018

JAIPUR: The National Tiger Conservation Authority (NTCA) has pointed out that the state forest department not only violated law in the relocation of tiger T-91 to the Mukundra Hills Tiger Reserve (MHTR) but also failed to ensure ‘genetic diversity’ of the big cats.

In an affidavit filed before the Rajasthan high court on behalf of NTCA and MoEFCC, it has been mentioned that in 2015 the then Chief Wildlife Wardern of Rajasthan requested NTCA to translocate tigers from Madhya Pradesh and Maharashtra to MHTR, as there was no natural population in the reserve.

The state government seeking NTCA permission for translocating tigers from other states had noted:
“At present there are no tigers in the Mukundra Hills Tiger Reserve. Efforts are required to rehabilitate tigers in this area by translocation from other tiger reserves in order to bring in genetic diversity. For this purpose tiger reserves of MP and Maharashtra may be considered.”

While senior forest department officals claim that NTCA recently gave in-principle approval to shift two tigress from Ranthambore National Park (RNP),...

MP option might be back on the tables if the present wind holds (& WII permits). Closest tiger habitat to Mukundara is Ratapani Sanctuary in MP, about 350kms away. 
The corridors aren't much damaged though, but the intermediate tiger populations are gone. Ratapani males have been known to travel out few hundred kilometres & return.
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The Aggressive intent of the Junabai female.
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@Pckts 

I get what you’re saying Pckts, it’s very unlikely and a bit unusual indeed but judging purely from his appearance alone. I am convinced, he has Tadoba blood somewhere in him. they all have this generic look to them, the very typical “TAT” on their foreheads that i have observed in almost every specimen. just different variations. If every park kept proper tabs on all the tigers that go missing, i’m sure they would find a few outside in different parks just systematically positioning themselves to survive. how many tigers are readily tracked on daily basis? very few and finding atleast 8-10 cases of tigers travelling high distances of up to 250+km just in the last odd 6-10 years is a high number. journeys of 60km-100km are more common now, interestingly i now firmly believe that tigers are probably. capable of travelling even further. just need more scientific research. Are tigers capable of avoiding human-conflict while navigating through large distances? can they calculate their meal plans and the routes instinctively? the odds are unlikely but if journeys of 60,80,100,160,200 and 250km are possible than i have no reason to believe that a journey of 400km is not within the reach. same tiger that was able to use lost corridors to reach 250km could probably do a much larger distance In the same direction or cut through different routes. there is recorded evidence of two Tadoba born male tigers outside of Tadoba living comfortably in New Nagzira and Brahmapuri at the moment. (both dominant males) Tadoba to Nagzira is about 140km, Tadoba to Brahmapuri is roughly 80-100km. a radio collared tigress from Kanha travelled all the way down to Pench, MH in the span of four months covering 250km stretch back in 2008. a sub adult kanha male last year made the same journey covering 250km+ to reach Pench, Mh. Pannalal did a 150km journey, Jai did about 130km, P213 tigress of Panna did a 125km jouney to reach Northern India. the exact words of the Chief conservator of forest that tracked the young kanha male’s movements.


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“He is a very intelligent tiger and after the January incident, he has stayed well away from humans, quietly feeding and growing in the area,” Annigeri said.
He moved from Nagda hills to Manglia in Indore and then to Badnagar in Ujjain to Javasia village Badnawar in Dhar, across Sardarpur and into Petlawad in Jhabua. Officials said all these places have human habitation but he has managed to avoid any contact with humans.
“He has been travelling in a straight line along the banks on the Mahi river,” Annigeri said.

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https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/lovelorn-tiger-travels-250km-looking-for-mate-in-madhya-pradesh/story-VSLcUfcRF2kpM8W2EmgqRN.html


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(08-07-2018, 09:15 PM)Roflcopters Wrote: A three year old sub adult male from Kanha travelled around 250km last year. the exact words of the Chief conservator of forest that tracked his movements.

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“He is a very intelligent tiger and after the January incident, he has stayed well away from humans, quietly feeding and growing in the area,” Annigeri said.
He moved from Nagda hills to Manglia in Indore and then to Badnagar in Ujjain to Javasia village Badnawar in Dhar, across Sardarpur and into Petlawad in Jhabua. Officials said all these places have human habitation but he has managed to avoid any contact with humans.
“He has been travelling in a straight line along the banks on the Mahi river,” Annigeri said.

for reference

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/lovelorn-tiger-travels-250km-looking-for-mate-in-madhya-pradesh/story-VSLcUfcRF2kpM8W2EmgqRN.html


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That tiger wasn't from Kanha. It was recorded moving through Madhya Pradesh’s Indore, Dewas, Ujjain, Dhar and Jhabua districts.


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It could only have been from Ratapani Wildlife Sanctuary (proposed to be a tiger reserve, but nothing happened). The forest had reached its carrying capacity long ago & he just started moving west through the forests on Vindhya Range. Nobody knows where he finally ended up. 
However, no news of any tiger dying had been noted in the region.

As the forests toward the northwest are too sparsed & scrubby, the tiger that was recently seen in Dangs forest of Gujarat could very likely be him.
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thanks for the correction, not sure where i read Kanha in that report.
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