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Tiger Predation

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(01-01-2019, 12:03 AM)Spalea Wrote: @Pckts @parvez @Wolverine and the others: happy new year and I welcome your future posts !

Thank you @Spalea . New year wishes to you too.
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Chota Matka looking very interested in Gaur, he'll be hunting them soon enough if he hasn't started already which I bet he has.




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( This post was last modified: 01-05-2019, 07:18 AM by Rishi )

A new Tiger predation account on a Elephant, new to me at least.



We managed to get a trip into the forest in the evening and were very lucky to see an Elephant carcass. We were told that a Tiger had killed the elephant, which was an adolescent and not a fully grown one. But how the Tiger managed to bring it down was a surprise and we couldn't understand. Normally elephants are in groups and how did the tiger manage this!!!!

We could see tiger pugmarks all around the carcass. The belly was open and all intestines were out, typicall of a tiger kill, as they first remove the intestines before they gorge on the meat. A part of its trunk was bitten off. But surprisingly the entire carcass was in tact but for these, and the for some reason, the Tiger had eaten nothing. We have been to Parambikulam several times and never had such a sighting!!!!



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Elephant Carcass with intestines out

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My dad always used to tell stories tat he had xperincd in kabini and tat used to thrill me from my childhood i had picturised kabini in my own way and whn i had the chace to go ter the place mesmerized me completely on my 1st safari i was able to spot a tiger (backwatermale) and till now m been to kabini for 27times and each tym i was successful in spotting the tigers it become the luckist place for me to study about tigers on one occation i was watching 4 elephants whc stood a couple of meters away then i spotted something crawling in the bush nearby and was shocked to see a tiger their it had laid n i on the elephant calf the time was 8 n d morning and the stood ter wid its focus on the calf ter wer spotted deers juz behind the tiger but it showed no intrst in catching dem the tiger inorder to catch the calf crossed the main road for almost 3 times and i was witnessing a disciplined hunting skill of that tiger ita rare for a tiger to cahse elephants but it was very bold and fearlessly and it chased them for sometym and even injured the calf n d back and whn the elephants no longer had the energy to run more the tiger made its move and killed the calf while the other elephants including the mother stood helplessly

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A brave mother gaur and a tigress in kabini.. 



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(01-08-2019, 06:00 PM)Suhail Wrote: A brave mother gaur and a tigress in kabini.. 




It is easy to forget, that most hunts aren´t successful, when people upload mostly those cases, when predators catch prey. Many prey animals are very dangerous if surprise element is lost.
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( This post was last modified: 01-08-2019, 09:26 PM by Shadow )

Almost there going for it, then gaur noticed it... maybe a split second more and tiger would have attacked. But who could blame the tiger, gaur is gaur after all.




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A sudden cacophony of calls, oozing with palpable tension and anxiety, pierced through the bamboo groves on Dhawajhandi, a call that only means one thing, a tiger who has just charged!
No sooner than i picked up my camera that this happened! A flash of brown, a very quick bolt of orange and silence again!
With hands still trembling and heart racing faster than what i had just experienced, i was really lucky and blessed to document this memorable natural history moment.

P.S: I got barely half a second to shoot so please excuse the slight shake.

P.S.S: Tigers can jump a very long distance and which is pretty evident in the image! Considering the tigress is around 8-9 feet from tail tip to nose tip, you can see a patch of dust glowing in the sunrays to the left of where the tigress is and which indicates the location of her previous contact with the ground - and the distance between the two jumps is clearly longer than the tigress’ 9 feet length! Look closely for yourself to know what incredibly powerful these enchanting cats are! Also, remember that it is a 150-170 (since a female) kilogram animal charging at 50+ kph! Awestruck each time i see these most iconic of predators!

Dhawajhandi female, Kanha.

 — at Kanha Tiger Reserve.
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Here is the tiger - buffalo confrontation that I was fortunate enough to see at Kaziranga Wildlife Sanctuary in Assam.

Can you believe I forgot my camera that morning but Di took this picture and shared it with me. — in Kaziranga, Assam, India.


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She said the tiger had killed the buffalo's calf, it was in the bushes and vultures were flying overhead.
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(01-08-2019, 10:36 PM)Pckts Wrote: Dana McCown
Here is the tiger - buffalo confrontation that I was fortunate enough to see at Kaziranga Wildlife Sanctuary in Assam.

Can you believe I forgot my camera that morning but Di took this picture and shared it with me. — in Kaziranga, Assam, India.


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She said the tiger had killed the buffalo's calf, it was in the bushes and vultures were flying overhead.

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Have you been in Kaziranga?
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(01-08-2019, 10:46 PM)epaiva Wrote:
(01-08-2019, 10:36 PM)Pckts Wrote: Dana McCown
Here is the tiger - buffalo confrontation that I was fortunate enough to see at Kaziranga Wildlife Sanctuary in Assam.

Can you believe I forgot my camera that morning but Di took this picture and shared it with me. — in Kaziranga, Assam, India.


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She said the tiger had killed the buffalo's calf, it was in the bushes and vultures were flying overhead.

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Have you been in Kaziranga?

Not yet, but funny enough I just spoke with my buddy who I did my last trip to India with and we are going to set up a Kaziranga-Bandhavgarh trip, he said it's a little bit of traveling between the 2 parks but nothing we can't handle.
After this Pantanal trip though I'll have to take a bit of time off, I have a ton of Weddings to attend this year as well and those add up.
Maybe in 2020 if I can get my GF to agree.
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 Forests and Wildlife Protection Society - FAWPSSome Tiger Action from Nagarhole, Karnataka!
It can be seen clearly that a Tiger did an failed Ambush attack and tried to grab the Calf from the Herd of Gaurs! 
Tigers usually stalk it's prey and make a surprise attack, sometimes they fail, sometimes they succeed! 
It can also be noticed that how protective the Gaurs were about the Calf!
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(12-07-2018, 09:01 AM)Sanju Wrote: about #1439 post: wow i wonder why the cape buffaloes herd is too much panicked even when the lions ambush is failed and being spotted and another thing is which is unusual is buffalo herd doesn't formed a defense position and charged at the 'single' lion when their fellow buddy is struggling for life with a 'single' lion . well even those buffalo are not very big when compared with  the typical  lion which too an avg male, that 100% wild cape buffalo also similar in size with those semi wild buffalo, that buffalo kept on stampeding and didn't give up and gave a tough job.
In tiger attacking buffalo video. though the buffalo are semi wild, they were successful in defending their dead mate. that tiger secret in killing  quickly that similar sized buffalo like cape is, tiger looked  big, used it's two paws and jaws for attacking on the skull and one peculiar character i noticed is that tiger shook the buffalo's head violently and cruelly which might gave broke the cervical vertebrae. and then after the buffalo fell down and dead. even interesting is while the tiger doing all these things, the rest of the herd kept on attacking and the tiger tackled them both simultaneously in killing one and defending itself against others. after killing the targeted ungulate, that tiger showed too much aggression even when massive angry bovines herd is  charging at him and attacked them too for sometime and after that he retreated to come back and feast on the targeted specimen's carcass may be happened after video. it is my analysis based on observing the two videos comparatively, hence may be that particular tiger killed that efficiently within seconds unlike using neck bite like lion and also tiger looked very experienced and skillful.

P.S: these are all "in my opinion".
Even though old posting, that buffalo didn´t die there in that tiger attack, even though it stayed on ground. It kept head up there for a moment after tiger releases grip and then later lay down head. So it was maybe injured and/or in shock, but not dead and also seemed to have cervical certebrae ok, otherwise it would have been totally limp immediately, not able to keep head up for a moment after tiger released grip. It can be seen clearly in some footage about that same case. Probably that buffalo died afterwards, because it didn´t stand up shortly. But I also thought, that it died almost instantly before I looked closer that video and noticed, that it wasn´t limp and was able to keep head up for that moment.

What comes to lion and cape buffalos, that isn´t first time when even a single lion has been able to make a herd of them to flee when charging. It happens time to time, then again not always lions is so determined as in that video and go for a kill. So maybe this time there was no brave individuals in that herd and lion happened to be very confident individual, it happens sometimes and then result is what it is. In all mammal species we have different characters too. Easy to forget sometimes, but little things mean sometimes that difference what happens. Lion took initiative there. Also buffalos might have had that fear, that where is one, there are another ones too...
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( This post was last modified: 01-11-2019, 05:37 PM by Shadow )

I have wondered for some time. We have time to time discussions, that tigers kill rhinos. Also some articles. But where are photos (Yes, I have seen 2-3 different ones and many people say, that tigers kill regularly rhinos, even adults) showing some injuries, that how adult rhino would have been killed? No video footage naturally, but that I can understand, very little about lions too, only a few. And where are official records?

For instance one article say, that... was it 472 rhinos died by tiger predation in Kaziranga National Park between 1982-2014. But even today Kaziranga website tells, that adult rhinos are safe from tigers and calves are the ones getting killed. That sounds logical when looking at available information overall. Does anyone have any actual information, any photos, which would show something else than those 1-3 carcasses maybe telling actually nothing, that how rhino died.

I just find it odd, that in modern times, if something so amazing happens "all the time", how come that we have next to nothing what comes to photos, information confirmed by officials in some real document? How come no researchers seem to have no interest in this issue if that really happens? I am not saying, that impossible, but I am curious, that what is reality in this matter? Does anyone have something else than articles from newspapers with no names, always "officials say". Of course if tigers kill 472 calves in 32 years, that is about 14 calves annually, I guess, that rhinos can survive from that much.

But are there any really confirmed cases what comes to adult rhinos? Or maybe this should be asked from Kaziranga National Park from instance to get some name, who confirms something? If this topic has been already discussed here and some conclusion, then I missed it. But I haven´t so far found anything from researchers confirming adult rhinos killed by tigers and I would be interested to see if someone has something :)
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Here is one document, which I found about rhinos in Kaziranga and some statistics. And here is mentioned, that all are calves.

http://www.rhinoresourcecenter.com/pdf_f...928669.pdf
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