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Big cat and Bear tale

Guatemala GuateGojira Offline
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Valmik Thapar stated that tigers can reach up to 60 miles at hour, probably recorded in the hunts of Gengis in Ranthambore.

Just my two cents. Cool
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"A two-year old brown bear (Ursus arctos isabellinus) was
killed and partially eaten by a snow leopard in Kazahkstan, but this must be quite unusual"
(Heptner and Sludskii 1992)

Not sure how reliable this is but still very interesting.
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the great charger from bandhavgarh


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I have a lot of accounts on bear-cat interaction, mostly ussuri brown bear and amur tiger although this is about a mountain lion.

Will post most of them gradually.
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(11-04-2015, 12:43 AM)SVTIGRIS Wrote: the great charger from bandhavgarh


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I think this is Carger from Pench 
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(11-04-2015, 05:29 AM)Pantherinae Wrote:
(11-04-2015, 12:43 AM)SVTIGRIS Wrote: the great charger from bandhavgarh


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I think this is Carger from Pench 


Oh ok, sorry for the mistake
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Amur prey includes bears
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If u didn't already know misha

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http://www.brothersofthebow.com/html/solospirits.html

"Some older tigers would also stalk and kill brown bears, which were easier to catch than elk. Following tigers with radio locators, Bart could read these stories in the snow. The tigers usually just walked the bears down from behind. The big cats had killer instincts and usually about a hundred pound weight advantage on the bears. They would go straight for the neck and sever the spine at the base of the skull. Every once in a while the trampled snow would tell of a furious fight, which always ended with a dead bear. During the study, the team determined that vehicle injuries and poachers caused most tiger mortality. Bart said that if the tigers were going to survive, humans were going to have to want them to and find ways to share the same ecosystems. I could tell that Bart was proud of the team’s work as they made progress in habitat planning, forest usage, establishing travel corridors, and public relations. Insurance policies were provided to farmers who suffered livestock losses. He said, “The science is great, but ultimately we need the support of the people who live and work along side these great cats if we are going to succeed.”


Something else


"Recently on the Sikhote-Alin Biosphere reserve, Hornocker and Quigley discovered a 400 lb male Siberian tiger had developed a strange preference for just one prey:brown bears. Although red deer and other game were readily available, this cat stalked and ate bears almost twice as heavy as itself. The biologists tracked the tiger through the snow to eight seperate bear kills, all of which seemed to have been acomplished without great effort, except one. In that kill, there was evidence of a vicious battle with bits of bear hide strewn over a wide area. but the tiger had won. The only conclusion is that without natural predators, bears forage with heads down, worry free."

"Goodrich talks about his work, and about what he and his wife, Linda Kerley, have learned in their three years here. Siberian tigers generally feast on elk or boar; but sometimes they eat wolves, and one male at Sikhote-Alin specializes in brown bears. He weighs in at 445 pounds; he'll kill bears bigger than he is."
Siberian tigers are menaced as Russian economy collapses



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That's about all the wild cases I have
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( This post was last modified: 11-05-2015, 08:42 PM by brotherbear )

Yellowstone Bears in the Wild by James C. Halfpenny.

Size and Sensibility - Size counts.
My bear is bigger than your bear! Perhaps size is the most common topic for bear watchers. It is certainly a cause for bragging rights. Of course, bear size depends on where you are and who is telling the story. Famed naturalist Adolph Murie long ago noted that the biggest bears were always furthest away from any scales. In the Yellowstone area, bears are always biggest at the K-Bar Saloon in Gardiner.
Many people wonder if half-ton grizzlies roam the GYE. Paul Schullery noted historian and above all ursophile, reported in 'The Bears of Yellowstone' that on July 9, 1870, Bart Henderson shot a large grizzly near Cooke City. According to Bart's story, "We was attacked by an old boar bear. We soon killed him. He proved to be the largestever killed in the mountains, weighing 960 pounds." Paul notes that we do not know how, or really if, the bear was weighed.
I am only going to consider bears that were actually weighed or had their weights carefully estimated by chest girth measurements - no stories, no tales, no matter how good.
The heaviest Yellowstone grizzly "with documentation" that I know of was killed in 1916 near Old Faithful by Arthur Young for an exhibit in the California Academy of Science in San Francisco. When weighed in sections, the animal totaled 916 pounds. Dr. Saxton Pope, who also shot at the bear, estimated that 10 percent of the bear's live weight may have been lost as blood and waste during processing. If true, the bear weighed about 1,000 pounds. The bear was shot in May and reportedly had no fat left over after hibernation. How accurate were the scales in 1916? It should be noted that this bear was probably feeding at a garbage dump.
Then there is the legend of the Thousand Pound Bear named "Bruno" ( grizzly number 14 ), studied by the Craighead brothers. The heaviest recorded weight for Bruno was 890 pounds when live-trapped on September 5. Since the brothers figured he would put on additional weight before hibernation, Bruno was nicknamed the Thousand Pound Bear, even though he wasn't.
The Craigheads also trapped Fidel ( grizzly number 206 ), which weighed 800 pounds, No. 115 which weighed 660 pounds, No. 13 which weighed 645 pounds, and Ingemar ( No 12 ) which weighed 620 pounds. All were males. They also reported the average weight of grizzly bears contending for top leadership at the Trout Creek garbage dump was 575 pounds. All weights were taken in June or July. ( In some accounts referring to the Craighead research there are reports of a 1,120 pound ( or 500 kg ) grizzly bear. I have not been able to find such a bear in any of their scientific articles.
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( This post was last modified: 11-05-2015, 09:03 PM by brotherbear )

Pckts, I will search and find the info on 'Fatso' when I can find the time to do so.
Expedition Wild with Casey Anderson:

* Bears in Yellowstone National Park can stand about 100 centimetres ( 3 ft. 3 in. ) at the shoulder when on all fours and weigh about 275 kilograms ( 606 lbs. ).
* Coastal brown bears can stand 112 centimetres ( 3 ft. 8 in. ) tall at the shoulder when on all fours and weigh 410 kilograms ( 904 lbs. ) or more.
* A Kodiak bear can stand more than 140 centimetres ( 4 ft. 7 in. ) tall at the shoulder when on all fours and weigh more than 630 kilos ( 1,389 lbs. ).
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I'd just like to see actual verified weights, whenever you get a chance to provide the link to these alleged weights, I'd love to see them.
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India brotherbear Offline
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Pckts, the Ussuri brown bears of the RFE are larger on average than the inland grizzlies of North America due to richer food resources. The maximum size of each seem to be similar.  
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The Grizzly Almanac by Robert H. Busch: The largest Yellowstone National Park grizzly was an 1,120 pound ( 509 kg ) fatso that gained his pear-shaped figure after a steady diet of human garbage at dumps. Most Yellowstone males are 215 to 715 pounds ( 98 to 325 kg ); females are 200 to450 pounds ( 91 to 205 kg ). 
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India brotherbear Offline
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I own three books about Russia and/or Siberia: Land of the Bear, Notes of an East Siberian Hunter, and Realms of the Russian Bear. Thus far, I have found no mention of tigers and bears interacting. 
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( This post was last modified: 11-12-2015, 02:20 AM by Pckts )

(11-11-2015, 08:26 PM)brotherbear Wrote: The Grizzly Almanac by Robert H. Busch: The largest Yellowstone National Park grizzly was an 1,120 pound ( 509 kg ) fatso that gained his pear-shaped figure after a steady diet of human garbage at dumps. Most Yellowstone males are 215 to 715 pounds ( 98 to 325 kg ); females are 200 to450 pounds ( 91 to 205 kg ). 

Does the bear almanac give mention to who obtained these weights, location, measurements, bear ID etc?
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