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The Mighty Mapogos

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(05-20-2020, 05:44 PM)Raj8143 Wrote:
(05-17-2020, 10:15 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Very cool video, that I, personally, had never seen before. I had no idea that John Varty had gotten so close to Kinky Tail, or any of the other brief stories in the video for that matter, but that particular encounter is insane on so many levels. Sure, it's easy to say after the fact how cool and brave it was, but I doubt those same words were used to describe that particular encounter back when it took place.




is it legal in Africa to do  this kind of stuff?....getting out from the jeep!!...and if lion try to protect him in self defense they will shoot them...!!!
I am sure it is not legal in Africa, but on top of that it must be incredibly unethical. Not to say that Varty has ever been accused of being ethical, so there's that. This was one of the dumbest, most narcissistic things I have ever seen someone do. As you stated, if he gets attacked, they would have killed Kinky Tail to save him. All to make a video, that could have been made entirely from inside the truck. Same thing happened in Alaska, with Grizzly Man Tim Treadwell. He claimed everything he was doing was for the bears, but yet his actions not only got himself killed, he got an innocent woman killed, and as a result the bear that killed them was also killed. Same thing with this guy, his actions in this video, and his introduced tigers.
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In the video I posted previously, it mentions the Sand River Pride that contained 5 Mapogo sons, even shows a picture of all five of them drinking which is very reminiscent of the famous picture of the Mapogos. It states that the entire pride had to be killed due to their escaping the sanctuary on two separate occasions, the first time the result of the fence having been washed out by a massive rain which caused a flood. Does anyone know more about this? My, how things could have been different if 5 sons, direct descendants of The Mighty Mapogos could have lived, but how incredibly sad that they never got the chance. Who knows how many of his brothers sons Mr. T killed himself as well.
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(05-21-2020, 01:02 AM)BA0701 Wrote: In the video I posted previously, it mentions the Sand River Pride that contained 5 Mapogo sons, even shows a picture of all five of them drinking which is very reminiscent of the famous picture of the Mapogos. It states that the entire pride had to be killed due to their escaping the sanctuary on two separate occasions, the first time the result of the fence having been washed out by a massive rain which caused a flood. Does anyone know more about this? My, how things could have been different if 5 sons, direct descendants of The Mighty Mapogos could have lived, but how incredibly sad that they never got the chance. Who knows how many of his brothers sons Mr. T killed himself as well.

There you have more in that matter:

https://www.leopardhills.com/blog/safari-lodge-general/the-end-of-an-era-and-a-sad-state-of-affairs/
https://www.leopardhills.com/blog/lodge-conservation/sand-river-pride/
https://www.leopardhills.com/blog/safari-lodge-general/sand-river-pride-continued/
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(05-21-2020, 01:08 PM)Potato Wrote:
(05-21-2020, 01:02 AM)BA0701 Wrote: In the video I posted previously, it mentions the Sand River Pride that contained 5 Mapogo sons, even shows a picture of all five of them drinking which is very reminiscent of the famous picture of the Mapogos. It states that the entire pride had to be killed due to their escaping the sanctuary on two separate occasions, the first time the result of the fence having been washed out by a massive rain which caused a flood. Does anyone know more about this? My, how things could have been different if 5 sons, direct descendants of The Mighty Mapogos could have lived, but how incredibly sad that they never got the chance. Who knows how many of his brothers sons Mr. T killed himself as well.

There you have more in that matter:

https://www.leopardhills.com/blog/safari-lodge-general/the-end-of-an-era-and-a-sad-state-of-affairs/
https://www.leopardhills.com/blog/lodge-conservation/sand-river-pride/
https://www.leopardhills.com/blog/safari-lodge-general/sand-river-pride-continued/
Thank you very much for the assist. Hopefully I might return the favor one day. Until then, cheers my friend!
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(05-21-2020, 01:08 PM)Potato Wrote:
(05-21-2020, 01:02 AM)BA0701 Wrote: In the video I posted previously, it mentions the Sand River Pride that contained 5 Mapogo sons, even shows a picture of all five of them drinking which is very reminiscent of the famous picture of the Mapogos. It states that the entire pride had to be killed due to their escaping the sanctuary on two separate occasions, the first time the result of the fence having been washed out by a massive rain which caused a flood. Does anyone know more about this? My, how things could have been different if 5 sons, direct descendants of The Mighty Mapogos could have lived, but how incredibly sad that they never got the chance. Who knows how many of his brothers sons Mr. T killed himself as well.

There you have more in that matter:

https://www.leopardhills.com/blog/safari-lodge-general/the-end-of-an-era-and-a-sad-state-of-affairs/
https://www.leopardhills.com/blog/lodge-conservation/sand-river-pride/
https://www.leopardhills.com/blog/safari-lodge-general/sand-river-pride-continued/
Wow, I was not prepared for that. The emotion in the writing of all three articles is palpable, and the entire story in so incredibly heartbreaking that this would happen. Though it happened so many years ago, the tale still elicits anger at the sheer ignorance.

I have literally been hunting since I could hold a gun, and was given my first shotgun when I was 10, a single shot 20 gauge that I still own. The first, and dare I say the most important, point that was drilled into me was that I should never kill anything I was not hunting for (among other things like minimizing animal's suffering through proper shot placement, etc ...). But I was taught that to share the woods with the other creatures I would see in the woods was a privilege, and should be treated as such. To possess a gun is to hold immense power, and power is not to be abused or misused. I can, literally, still hear my father and my uncle, to this day, telling me those very quotes. I remember seeing movies like Born Free as a child and the impact they had on me. To this day, I have been in the woods with countless creatures that I was not actively hunting for, and I cannot describe the feeling that I still get every time it happens. I simply cannot understand the mentality that it takes to act in this way.

Regardless, thank you so much for sharing that with me, I believe it should be read by more folks.
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Hello Guys.
What do you think about this. Apparently the Mapogo Page has said about this Male as Othawa M (Mapogo Son??)
I will post two Images with probably 5 Years of Differences. With a Scar which would be easy to recognize to this male in Specific.

Could be this a come  back of son of a Legend as the Styx and Fourways male have do? Give me your opinion Wink
I have a lot of Images of them, If you want see them let me to know <3

Othawa M (2011) Credit: Khimbini Hlongwane
Othawa M (2017 According Mapogo Page) Credit: Unknown



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(05-24-2020, 07:00 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: Hello Guys.
What do you think about this. Apparently the Mapogo Page has said about this Male as Othawa M (Mapogo Son??)
I will post two Images with probably 5 Years of Differences. With a Scar which would be easy to recognize to this male in Specific.

Could be this a come  back of son of a Legend as the Styx and Fourways male have do? Give me your opinion Wink
I have a lot of Images of them, If you want see them let me to know <3

Othawa M (2011) Credit: Khimbini Hlongwane
Othawa M (2017 According Mapogo Page) Credit: Unknown

Hmm, interesting. 

In which part of Kruger was this male filmed?

And are they sure that on first image is Othawa M? I think he was younger then this when he left Sabi Sands.
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( This post was last modified: 05-24-2020, 02:05 PM by Potato )

(05-24-2020, 07:00 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: Hello Guys.
What do you think about this. Apparently the Mapogo Page has said about this Male as Othawa M (Mapogo Son??)
I will post two Images with probably 5 Years of Differences. With a Scar which would be easy to recognize to this male in Specific.

Could be this a come  back of son of a Legend as the Styx and Fourways male have do? Give me your opinion Wink
I have a lot of Images of them, If you want see them let me to know <3

Othawa M (2011) Credit: Khimbini Hlongwane
Othawa M (2017 According Mapogo Page) Credit: Unknown



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Hard to say by single picture. Could you upload more?

"And are they sure that on first image is Othawa M? I think he was younger then this when he left Sabi Sands."

He look same as on the picture above.




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(05-24-2020, 07:00 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: Hello Guys.
What do you think about this. Apparently the Mapogo Page has said about this Male as Othawa M (Mapogo Son??)
I will post two Images with probably 5 Years of Differences. With a Scar which would be easy to recognize to this male in Specific.

Could be this a come  back of son of a Legend as the Styx and Fourways male have do? Give me your opinion Wink
I have a lot of Images of them, If you want see them let me to know <3

Othawa M (2011) Credit: Khimbini Hlongwane
Othawa M (2017 According Mapogo Page) Credit: Unknown



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interesting....can u upload more pictures plz
history will remember them u like it or not...!!! the brothers in blood  MAPOGOS...
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(05-24-2020, 01:39 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(05-24-2020, 07:00 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: Hello Guys.
What do you think about this. Apparently the Mapogo Page has said about this Male as Othawa M (Mapogo Son??)
I will post two Images with probably 5 Years of Differences. With a Scar which would be easy to recognize to this male in Specific.

Could be this a come  back of son of a Legend as the Styx and Fourways male have do? Give me your opinion Wink
I have a lot of Images of them, If you want see them let me to know <3

Othawa M (2011) Credit: Khimbini Hlongwane
Othawa M (2017 According Mapogo Page) Credit: Unknown

Hmm, interesting. 

In which part of Kruger was this male filmed?

And are they sure that on first image is Othawa M? I think he was younger then this when he left Sabi Sands.

I don't have more information, But I have a picture of POssibly OM In 2019. The Photographer he had said, "2 old lions looking for some shade" And one of them was very similar to OM And Pretty boy
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Judge for yourself. All opinion are welcome Wink

For me, They are a copy paper!
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(05-24-2020, 02:03 PM)Potato Wrote:
(05-24-2020, 07:00 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: Hello Guys.
What do you think about this. Apparently the Mapogo Page has said about this Male as Othawa M (Mapogo Son??)
I will post two Images with probably 5 Years of Differences. With a Scar which would be easy to recognize to this male in Specific.

Could be this a come  back of son of a Legend as the Styx and Fourways male have do? Give me your opinion Wink
I have a lot of Images of them, If you want see them let me to know <3

Othawa M (2011) Credit: Khimbini Hlongwane
Othawa M (2017 According Mapogo Page) Credit: Unknown



*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

Hard to say by single picture. Could you upload more?

"And are they sure that on first image is Othawa M? I think he was younger then this when he left Sabi Sands."

He look same as on the picture above.







*This image is copyright of its original author
   

This image was posted as Othawa male.
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(05-24-2020, 11:48 PM)TinoArmando Wrote: Judge for yourself. All opinion are welcome Wink

For me, They are a copy paper!

Well, for first image from 2017, those are definetly the same lions. 

For second image from 2019, idk, it seems that whisker spots are bit off, are you sure that those lions on those 2 pics are the same? 

Can you find out in which part of Kruger was he filmed?
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(05-25-2020, 01:09 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(05-24-2020, 11:48 PM)TinoArmando Wrote: Judge for yourself. All opinion are welcome Wink

For me, They are a copy paper!

Well, for first image from 2017, those are definetly the same lions. 

For second image from 2019, idk, it seems that whisker spots are bit off, are you sure that those lions on those 2 pics are the same? 

Can you find out in which part of Kruger was he filmed?

The Image in 2017 I don't know in which parts was taken, I never received an answer for that.

About the from I just post from 2019, Post the images to find out if anyone could tell if it is or not
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I am very sceptical on those pictures. On that from 2019 whisker spots seem to do not match. On that from 2017 it hard to say as scar covars important part of the whiskers (that marked on blue). I am not convinced at all that Othawa M in on the pictue at all.
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