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Poll: Who is the largest of the bears?
Polar Bear
Kodiak Bear
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The "King" of the bears - comparison between the Polar bear and the Brown bear

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I think that polar bear are the lagrest bear.
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(11-04-2019, 03:19 PM)AlexE Wrote: I think that polar bear are the lagrest bear.

In terms of average weight, the polar bear would be the largest as a species, because most brown bears are smaller, with only the Kodiak brown bear rivalling it, but overall, it's a competition between the polar bear and Kodiak brown bear, hence the poll.
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Comparison between brown bear and polar bear in captivity:

Unlike the brown bear, polar bears in captivity are rarely overweight or particularly large, possibly as a reaction to the warm conditions of most zoos.

https://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/11801217
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Does anyone have the average and maximum weights of grolar bears? Do they rival the Kodiak or polar bear in size?
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(07-26-2020, 07:06 AM)Stripedlion2 Wrote: Does anyone have the average and maximum weights of grolar bears? Do they rival the Kodiak or polar bear in size?

In wild they are hybrids of smaller brown bears than Kodiak bears or Alaskan peninsula bears, so it´s not likely to think, that they could be same as Kodiak bears. Even though polar bears are biggest, difference isn´t that much. Most likely they are somewhere in between of brown bears living inland and polar bears are. So maybe some big ones might be close to Kodiak bears, but hardly same as polar bears.

I haven´t been too interested of grolars and I don´t know how it is in captivity, there they might have hybrids of bigger brown bear subspecies and polar bears, but in wild it should be quite clear, that polar bears meet only smaller brown bears and most likely hybrids are smaller too. I guess, that you think about ligers in this in comparison, but with tigers and lions size difference is marginal if in reality any at all, when looking at weights of fit individuals. So it´s no surprise, that hybrid(s) are the size they are. And before someone mention genes of male lions causing acromegaly, it´s no news. Even without it, hybrids of tigers and lions are big, because they are so similar sized big cats. But with these bears situation isn´t the same, brown bear is clearly smaller and so it´s logical, that hybrids can´t be as big as polar bears are.
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Thank you. Any weights on grolar bears or estimates?
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''They kept saying it could be the biggest bear they had ever taken; so we figured out a way to get it loaded whole and took it back to the lodge. They flew in a hanging scale so we could weigh him. After gallons of blood loss he weighed 1,417 pounds. He would have been close to 1,450 pounds while alive. His hide squared 10’4”. He was 7’10” around the belly and 9’1” nose to tail."


*This image is copyright of its original author


https://miaanstine.com/2014/11/11/archer...bear-hunt/

It's quite sickening to see people doing this. Regardless , @GuateGojira , what are your thoughts regarding this specimen ? I guess this might be a new possible record.
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(05-14-2022, 09:59 AM)Jerricson Wrote: 'They kept saying it could be the biggest bear they had ever taken; so we figured out a way to get it loaded whole and took it back to the lodge. They flew in a hanging scale so we could weigh him. After gallons of blood loss he weighed 1,417 pounds. He would have been close to 1,450 pounds while alive. His hide squared 10’4”. He was 7’10” around the belly and 9’1” nose to tail."


*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

https://miaanstine.com/2014/11/11/archer...bear-hunt/

It's quite sickening to see people doing this. Regardless , @GuateGojira , what are your thoughts regarding this specimen ? I guess this might be a new possible record.

Honestly I don't know if we can trust in these modern records, too many estimations and innacuracies, but I think that for a hunting record is ok.

Now, about the dimentions in the picture, certainly are exagerated by the effect of camera and pictures. Imagin a bear with a paw larger than its own head! It is rubbish how these hunters try to exagerate they kills to increase they own ego.
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( This post was last modified: 05-17-2022, 07:50 PM by Jerricson )

(05-16-2022, 11:43 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:
(05-14-2022, 09:59 AM)Jerricson Wrote: 'They kept saying it could be the biggest bear they had ever taken; so we figured out a way to get it loaded whole and took it back to the lodge. They flew in a hanging scale so we could weigh him. After gallons of blood loss he weighed 1,417 pounds. He would have been close to 1,450 pounds while alive. His hide squared 10’4”. He was 7’10” around the belly and 9’1” nose to tail."


*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

https://miaanstine.com/2014/11/11/archer...bear-hunt/

It's quite sickening to see people doing this. Regardless , @GuateGojira , what are your thoughts regarding this specimen ? I guess this might be a new possible record.

Honestly I don't know if we can trust in these modern records, too many estimations and innacuracies, but I think that for a hunting record is ok.

Now, about the dimentions in the picture, certainly are exagerated by the effect of camera and pictures. Imagin a bear with a paw larger than its own head! It is rubbish how these hunters try to exagerate they kills to increase they own ego.
Yeah, I agree with you . So , the biggest kodiak specimen weighed from scientific records would be the 1350 lbs male from Troyer's study.
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(05-17-2022, 07:49 PM)Jerricson Wrote: Yeah, I agree with you . So , the biggest kodiak specimen weighed from scientific records would be the 1350 lbs male from Troyer's study.

Yes, the biggest brown bear that I know, in scientific record, is an adult male of 611 kg from the Kodiak Island (Blanchard, 1987).
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