The "King" of the bears - comparison between the Polar bear and the Brown bear

[GreenGrolar]

(06-04-2022, 09:58 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(06-04-2022, 05:13 PM)GreenGrolar Wrote: While kodiak bears might be pound to pound stronger, I personally believe that the male polar bears from Foxe Basin are the king of the bears. The largest scientifically verified male polar bear is 810 kg (excluding the hunting articles where the largest male polar bear shot was 2210 pounds).

No doubt there is a kodiak bear named Goliath which has reached 2500 pounds but a wild male polar bear will be fitter than a captive kodiak bear.

I am not aware of this debate of Polar vs Kodiak, but may you please show the information that support/suggest that Kodiak bears are "stronger pound to pound" than polar bears?

What I have read suggest that they are equal, or that polars are stronger based in they bigger size, but are just opinions, no data attached.

Polar bear's seem to be the one with stronger forelimbs:

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https://books.google.com.au/books?dq=the...&q&f=false

Sometime ago, Ursus Artos (he hasn't posted a long time) posted data that polar bears have denser bones than brown bears just as a hippo has denser bones than a rhino (can't find that data anymore).

Polar bear's seem to be better grapplers than brown bears:
1. Polar Bear: -7.999
2. Brown Bear: -7.045
3. Spectacled Bear: -6.517
4. Giant Panda: -6.034
5. American Black Bear: -5.521
6. Sloth Bear: -4.447

https://domainofthebears.proboards.com/thread/819/comparing-grappling-ability-extant-ursids

However, brown bear's seem to have a more developed shoulder hump:

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https://books.google.it/books?id=D6YTYq5ShTIC&pg=PA41&dq=The+pronounced+shoulder+hump+is+actually+a+powerful+muscle+the+bear+uses+for+digging.&hl=it&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjG4_jtgpvzAhXPDOwKHXpgAYYQ6AF6BAgLEAM#v=onepage&q=The%20pronounced%20shoulder%20hump%20is%20actually%20a%20powerful%20muscle%20the%20bear%20uses%20for%20digging.&f=false

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https://books.google.it/books?id=abLCCQAAQBAJ&pg=PT20&dq=The+pronounced+shoulder+hump+is+actually+a+powerful+muscle+the+bear+uses+for+digging.&hl=it&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwicmIfHgZvzAhVFKuwKHUr3AeMQ6AF6BAgDEAM#v=onepage&q=The%20pronounced%20shoulder%20hump%20is%20actually%20a%20powerful%20muscle%20the%20bear%20uses%20for%20digging.&f=false

That is why I believe the kodiak bear is stronger pound to pound although I agree with you a polar bear with a decent weight advantage will be stronger. Feel free to disagree. Reply