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11-08-2019, 03:02 PM( This post was last modified: 11-08-2019, 10:13 PM by The Panther )
Samson the gorilla. He's one of if not the heaviest gorilla on record, he weighed in at 652 lbs or 296 kg. He died at age 32 and lost a 146 lbs or about 66 kg before that.
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@Shadow @GuateGojira
I wonder how the biggest eastern gorillas like Guhonda compare to him, because they're extremely large themselves. Although i do still think he was a good amount heavier, the real question is how much heavier? Because they do look similar in build, albeit less flabby compared to him.
This might be a good comparison
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Guhonda. If the pic doesn't show up, then the link is here just in case, then zoom in once you're in.
So you can see a similar build despite how flabby Samson was. I do believe there could be only 46 kg (about 100 lbs) to 34 kg (75 lbs) difference between Samson and the biggest Eastern gorillas, with Guhonda probably being closer to the latter, because he does seem slightly bigger than the other really large males.
I'm not a big fan of estimations, but i do prefer estimations with comparisons.
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(11-08-2019, 03:02 PM)The Panther Wrote: Samson the gorilla. He's one of if not the heaviest gorilla on record, he weighed in at 652 lbs or 296 kg. He died at age 32 and lost a 146 lbs or about 66 kg before that.
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@Shadow @GuateGojira
I wonder how the biggest eastern gorillas like Guhonda compare to him, because they're extremely large themselves. Although i do still think he was a good amount heavier, the real question is how much heavier? Because they do look similar in build, albeit less flabby compared to him.
This might be a good comparison
*This image is copyright of its original author
Guhonda. If the pic doesn't show up, then the link is here just in case, then zoom in once you're in.
So you can see a similar build despite how flabby Samson was. I do believe there could be only 46 kg (about 100 lbs) to 34 kg (75 lbs) difference between Samson and the biggest Eastern gorillas, with Guhonda probably being closer to the latter, because he does seem slightly bigger than the other really large males.
I'm not a big fan of estimations, but i do prefer estimations with comparisons.
Samson is a very obese captive Western silverback gorilla. I think Guhonda is a little bit heavier, because usually Eastern gorillas exceeded Western gorillas in body dimensions excluding weight. Although in general the Eastern gorillas are also heavier. I can't see the second last picture though.
11-09-2019, 07:02 PM( This post was last modified: 11-09-2019, 07:03 PM by The Panther )
(11-09-2019, 12:56 PM)johnny rex Wrote:
(11-08-2019, 03:02 PM)The Panther Wrote: Samson the gorilla. He's one of if not the heaviest gorilla on record, he weighed in at 652 lbs or 296 kg. He died at age 32 and lost a 146 lbs or about 66 kg before that.
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@Shadow @GuateGojira
I wonder how the biggest eastern gorillas like Guhonda compare to him, because they're extremely large themselves. Although i do still think he was a good amount heavier, the real question is how much heavier? Because they do look similar in build, albeit less flabby compared to him.
This might be a good comparison
*This image is copyright of its original author
Guhonda. If the pic doesn't show up, then the link is here just in case, then zoom in once you're in.
So you can see a similar build despite how flabby Samson was. I do believe there could be only 46 kg (about 100 lbs) to 34 kg (75 lbs) difference between Samson and the biggest Eastern gorillas, with Guhonda probably being closer to the latter, because he does seem slightly bigger than the other really large males.
I'm not a big fan of estimations, but i do prefer estimations with comparisons.
Samson is a very obese captive Western silverback gorilla. I think Guhonda is a little bit heavier, because usually Eastern gorillas exceeded Western gorillas in body dimensions excluding weight. Although in general the Eastern gorillas are also heavier. I can't see the second last picture though.
The second last image is in the link near it. I did mention how flabby Samson was, so yeah, he was obese.
I have noticed, in zoos, that male chimpanzees losed their hairs on their head whereas male bonobos kept them. And the bonobo's frame is neater, slimer...
11-19-2019, 12:54 AM( This post was last modified: 11-19-2019, 12:21 PM by The Panther )
(10-01-2019, 08:18 PM)GuateGojira Wrote: Check the image of the record gorilla (based on weight):
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Wood do not quote its height probably because that gorilla doesn't look like one of 198 cm in height. Probably it was about the same height than the Commander Gatti.
The figure of 206 cm tall of Carwardine is incorrect.
I think that the modern silverbacks like Guhonda seems bigger than this specimen. What do you think?
@GuateGojira @Shadow Here's a little comparison, I also posted another one a few replies up. This is M'bongo, he is among the largest captive gorillas on record, he was also one of the rare examples of Eastern gorillas living in zoos. M'bongo weighed 618 lbs or 280 kg at the time of his death, but his peak was said to be a good amount larger. He was apparently too big for the scales they had in 1930s to 1940s San Diego zoo, said to apparently weigh between 645 to 670 lbs or 293 to 304 kg. https://www.boneroom.com/store/p1277/Mountain_Gorilla_Skull__BC-124.html
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This was M'bongo when he was a bit smaller at 602 lbs or 273 kg
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As you can see like the other comparison with Samson, his build is very similar to the largest wild Eastern gorillas. He may still be slightly larger than them, but the weight difference doesn't seem to be a big one at all.
Guhonda
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The difference between him here and the largest wild Eastern gorillas could only be somewhere between 50 to 30 lbs (22 to 14 kg) at best. Just so you know, i'm talking about the absolute biggest wild males here (males like Guhonda), not just any large male.
11-25-2019, 05:36 AM( This post was last modified: 11-25-2019, 05:46 AM by The Panther )
(11-09-2019, 12:56 PM)johnny rex Wrote:
(11-08-2019, 03:02 PM)The Panther Wrote: Samson the gorilla. He's one of if not the heaviest gorilla on record, he weighed in at 652 lbs or 296 kg. He died at age 32 and lost a 146 lbs or about 66 kg before that.
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@Shadow @GuateGojira
I wonder how the biggest eastern gorillas like Guhonda compare to him, because they're extremely large themselves. Although i do still think he was a good amount heavier, the real question is how much heavier? Because they do look similar in build, albeit less flabby compared to him.
This might be a good comparison
*This image is copyright of its original author
Guhonda. If the pic doesn't show up, then the link is here just in case, then zoom in once you're in.
So you can see a similar build despite how flabby Samson was. I do believe there could be only 46 kg (about 100 lbs) to 34 kg (75 lbs) difference between Samson and the biggest Eastern gorillas, with Guhonda probably being closer to the latter, because he does seem slightly bigger than the other really large males.
I'm not a big fan of estimations, but i do prefer estimations with comparisons.
Samson is a very obese captive Western silverback gorilla. I think Guhonda is a little bit heavier, because usually Eastern gorillas exceeded Western gorillas in body dimensions excluding weight. Although in general the Eastern gorillas are also heavier. I can't see the second last picture though.
@johnny rex
What are your thoughts on my second comparison with Guhonda and the 602 lbs M'bongo (the weight in the picture)? Even though 652 lbs Samson was similar in build to the largest Eastern gorillas (though a lot more flabby), M'bongo and the largest Eastern gorillas look a lot more close in weight.
11-25-2019, 12:44 PM( This post was last modified: 11-25-2019, 01:08 PM by johnny rex )
(11-25-2019, 05:36 AM)The Panther Wrote:
(11-09-2019, 12:56 PM)johnny rex Wrote:
(11-08-2019, 03:02 PM)The Panther Wrote: Samson the gorilla. He's one of if not the heaviest gorilla on record, he weighed in at 652 lbs or 296 kg. He died at age 32 and lost a 146 lbs or about 66 kg before that.
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
@Shadow @GuateGojira
I wonder how the biggest eastern gorillas like Guhonda compare to him, because they're extremely large themselves. Although i do still think he was a good amount heavier, the real question is how much heavier? Because they do look similar in build, albeit less flabby compared to him.
This might be a good comparison
*This image is copyright of its original author
Guhonda. If the pic doesn't show up, then the link is here just in case, then zoom in once you're in.
So you can see a similar build despite how flabby Samson was. I do believe there could be only 46 kg (about 100 lbs) to 34 kg (75 lbs) difference between Samson and the biggest Eastern gorillas, with Guhonda probably being closer to the latter, because he does seem slightly bigger than the other really large males.
I'm not a big fan of estimations, but i do prefer estimations with comparisons.
Samson is a very obese captive Western silverback gorilla. I think Guhonda is a little bit heavier, because usually Eastern gorillas exceeded Western gorillas in body dimensions excluding weight. Although in general the Eastern gorillas are also heavier. I can't see the second last picture though.
@johnny rex
What are your thoughts on my second comparison with Guhonda and the 602 lbs M'bongo (the weight in the picture)? Even though 652 lbs Samson was similar in build to the largest Eastern gorillas (though a lot more flabby), M'bongo and the largest Eastern gorillas look a lot more close in weight.
Keep in mind, both the captive Eastern lowland gorillas M'bongo and Ngagi (his brother Ngagi was huge too. It was said Ngagi is muscular while M'bongo is a little bit flabbier) were younger than Samson and they already almost reaching Samson's weight despite younger than Samson. M'bongo and Ngagi also died at younger age compared to Samson. If they lived long enough, I think both of them will get much bigger than Samson. Yes, Samson's build is much closer to Eastern gorilla's build which is unusual for a Western gorilla as most Western gorillas are slimmer and gracile in build compared to Eastern gorillas.
Guhonda could be close to M'bongo's weight. If both have similar body dimensions including height, hip circumference, chest circumference, etc. Guhonda could be similar in size to M'bongo.
11-25-2019, 04:33 PM( This post was last modified: 11-26-2019, 12:10 AM by The Panther )
(11-25-2019, 12:44 PM)johnny rex Wrote:
(11-25-2019, 05:36 AM)The Panther Wrote:
(11-09-2019, 12:56 PM)johnny rex Wrote:
(11-08-2019, 03:02 PM)The Panther Wrote: Samson the gorilla. He's one of if not the heaviest gorilla on record, he weighed in at 652 lbs or 296 kg. He died at age 32 and lost a 146 lbs or about 66 kg before that.
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
@Shadow @GuateGojira
I wonder how the biggest eastern gorillas like Guhonda compare to him, because they're extremely large themselves. Although i do still think he was a good amount heavier, the real question is how much heavier? Because they do look similar in build, albeit less flabby compared to him.
This might be a good comparison
*This image is copyright of its original author
Guhonda. If the pic doesn't show up, then the link is here just in case, then zoom in once you're in.
So you can see a similar build despite how flabby Samson was. I do believe there could be only 46 kg (about 100 lbs) to 34 kg (75 lbs) difference between Samson and the biggest Eastern gorillas, with Guhonda probably being closer to the latter, because he does seem slightly bigger than the other really large males.
I'm not a big fan of estimations, but i do prefer estimations with comparisons.
Samson is a very obese captive Western silverback gorilla. I think Guhonda is a little bit heavier, because usually Eastern gorillas exceeded Western gorillas in body dimensions excluding weight. Although in general the Eastern gorillas are also heavier. I can't see the second last picture though.
@johnny rex
What are your thoughts on my second comparison with Guhonda and the 602 lbs M'bongo (the weight in the picture)? Even though 652 lbs Samson was similar in build to the largest Eastern gorillas (though a lot more flabby), M'bongo and the largest Eastern gorillas look a lot more close in weight.
Keep in mind, both the captive Eastern lowland gorillas M'bongo and Ngagi (his brother Ngagi was huge too. It was said Ngagi is muscular while M'bongo is a little bit flabbier) were younger than Samson and they already almost reaching Samson's weight despite younger than Samson. M'bongo and Ngagi also died at younger age compared to Samson. If they lived long enough, I think both of them will get much bigger than Samson. Yes, Samson's build is much closer to Eastern gorilla's build which is unusual for a Western gorilla as most Western gorillas are slimmer and gracile in build compared to Eastern gorillas.
Guhonda could be close to M'bongo's weight. If both have similar body dimensions including height, hip circumference, chest circumference, etc. Guhonda could be similar in size to M'bongo.
@johnny rex
Exactly, not to mention the other large mountain gorillas that are similar to Guhonda's size, they too show just how big Eastern gorillas can get if they live long enough. N'gagi reminds me of the wild Eastern males the most, because even at extremely large weights they still retain a somewhat muscular appearance.
