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Probably i didn't express my point clearly and i tackled the argument from a wrong direction. My point of view is that wild Gorillas, male silverbacks in this example, will reach 200kgs (440lbs) of weight often but it is really unlikely that there are many 250kgs (550lbs) Gorillas in the wild (i don't consider 300kgs (660lbs) wild Gorillas because i think this is impossible).  I am saying this because i believe there is a lot of difference between a 200kgs and 250kgs wild Gorilla in terms of physical structure and we know that 200kgs silverbacks are already big specimens, at least bigger than average adult males. If you suppose that there are many 250kgs adult male Gorillas you also have to acknowledge the existence of bigger Gorilla's skeletons and skulls in comparison with 200kgs male, because i think this is the only explanation for the extra 50kgs. I can also imagine the existence of very old silverbacks with locomotion issues and maybe this Gorillas reached higher weights near the end of their lifes (250kgs?) but in this case we are talking about an animal more similar to a zoo animal and not a wild silverback in his prime.
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(12-05-2020, 06:57 PM)LeoMan Wrote: Probably i didn't express my point clearly and i tackled the argument from a wrong direction. My point of view is that wild Gorillas, male silverbacks in this example, will reach 200kgs (440lbs) of weight often but it is really unlikely that there are many 250kgs (550lbs) Gorillas in the wild (i don't consider 300kgs (660lbs) wild Gorillas because i think this is impossible).  I am saying this because i believe there is a lot of difference between a 200kgs and 250kgs wild Gorilla in terms of physical structure and we know that 200kgs silverbacks are already big specimens, at least bigger than average adult males. If you suppose that there are many 250kgs adult male Gorillas you also have to acknowledge the existence of bigger Gorilla's skeletons and skulls in comparison with 200kgs male, because i think this is the only explanation for the extra 50kgs. I can also imagine the existence of very old silverbacks with locomotion issues and maybe this Gorillas reached higher weights near the end of their lifes (250kgs?) but in this case we are talking about an animal more similar to a zoo animal and not a wild silverback in his prime.

Yes, when talking about possible weights it´s always speculation. It´s easy to understand that gorillas aren´t sedated often, but kind of pity that some big looking dead gorillas haven´t been weighed before burying.
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Silverback Mpungwe staring at the person behind the camera.

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The very large and famous Chimanuka sitting proudly.

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Big old silverback Titus who died 11 years ago. 

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He was once called "The Gorilla King" and even had his own documentary with the same name.
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Silverback Chimanuka and his little ones. His look says a lot.
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Big old Mugaruka. He is the older brother of Chimanuka and also his oldest enemy.
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He lost his right hand to a snare when he was very little, so that would've given his brother Chimanuka the advantage in displacing him.
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A large silverback from Bwindi Impenetrable NP in Uganda. He looks kind of familiar but I can't think of his name right now, anyway he looks very interesting to say the least.

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A striking image of a male chimpanzee in Kibale National Park, Uganda.

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These chimps live in a mountainous forest in Uganda, so they're a lot hairier than the typical chimps you'll find in lowland regions like in Gabon for example.
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A chimpanzee eating a red colobus monkey in the mountainous Kibale National Park, Uganda.

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Chimps of Mahale Mountains National Park, Tanzania.

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These Chimps have longer coats than most chimps found in Central and West Africa, especially the males. This is due of course to the mountain forests they inhabit. They don't experience freezing temperatures like the mountain gorillas in the Virungas do, but it's at least cold enough to cause them to have longer coats.
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Big old Silverback Ruhondeza from Bwindi NP, Uganda. He died in 2012 at the grand old age of 50.

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Majestic old Munyinya looking frail and thin before death.

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He's been sick for some time and wasn't eating much. It's sad to see these pictures, because he was such a large and mighty silverback before this. RIP big guy
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