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Big cats size comparison - reviewed:
Ok, like I promises, here is the image of @qstxyz with the measurements of real animals. If you ask why it took so much time, well I can tell you that founding all the maximum and minimum ranges was a real pain in the .... you know  Well, here is the image: ***IMAGE REMOVED, IS IN PROCESS OF REVIEW*** I must apologice that the letter font is not the same, as my Photoshop do not had that type of font. Obviously the sizes are much smaller, but that is the diference between the wikipedia/internar/Walker book sizes and the real ones from the animals in the flesh. As it was a huge database I decided to use only the sizes from scientific sources, but that was also problematic because in the case of the tiger the diference is pretty clear (hunting vs scientific) but in the other animals it is not, as many sources used "hunted" animals, like the puma and jaguar. I already faced this issue with the lions before but I tried to use records since the scientific studies beginned 70 - 80's, except for the specific figures of the hunting records. If anyone have an especific question about one of these animals, fell free to ask. Meanwhile, ENJOY IT! Disclamer: the FULL credit of the image, design and the pictures work is for @qstxyz, he is a GREAT artist and an excelent designer.  I only put the information and re-scaled the animals, but that is all. 
Nice job @GuateGojira and the brilliant designer @qstxyz, It's always nice to read your inputs, in this however, i don't know if its due to different angle but the Clouded leopard looks way too small behind the Eurasian lynx, the weight difference at max. is about 10 kgs, their avg is even closer almost similar, but the size looks too different between them for sure, might be due to angle cuz clouded leopard is not completely in profile, in my view the size of the lynx looks scaled up slight too much espcially when comparing it against other felines like cheetah close to it, clouded leopard's size looks normal.
In fact you are right, the lynx is too large from my point of view, it should be about the same size than the clouded leopard. However I scaled it with the largest size recorded, which is of a head-body length of 148 cm, according with Sunquist & Sunquist (2002). However I have my doubts about it because it is as large as the largest cheetah, so probably that size was taken over the curves of the animal, or maybe it was an error and actually it was a total length. The other lynx records are no more than 110 cm, which is more reliable. Maybe I can change it, if I found the original source of the informatin of Dr Sunquist.
The size of the clouded leopard is correct, is scaled with the largest specimen measured in the flesh by Austin & Tewes (1999) with a head-body of 108 cm. If I found more information about the lynx size I may update the graphic. Thanks for the commentary.  (09-14-2018, 09:58 AM)GuateGojira Wrote: Big cats size comparison - reviewed:@GuateGojira Congratulations my Friend and to the Great Artist and designer @qstxyz for your Great Work 
Eurasian lynx despite its relatively small weight is quite tall animal due to its long legs. In our zoo lynxes surprisingly look (at least visually) a bit taller even than leopards despite the fact that the latter is 2 times more massive. Lynx's body structure is a bit different than other bigger cats, its more "skinny", lynx sometimes looks larger than it is in reality. I mean the shape of the animals from profile not always give real impression about their real weight.
(09-15-2018, 01:44 AM)Wolverine Wrote: Eurasian lynx despite its relatively small weight is quite tall animal due to its long legs. In our zoo lynxes surprisingly look (at least visually) a bit taller even than leopards despite the fact that the latter is 2 times more massive. Lynx's body structure is a bit different than other bigger cats, its more "skinny", lynx sometimes looks larger than it is in reality. I mean the shape of the animals from profile not always give real impression about their real weight. Wow! Thank you very much for the information @Wolverine, I really apreciate it. (09-15-2018, 01:44 AM)Wolverine Wrote: Eurasian lynx despite its relatively small weight is quite tall animal due to its long legs. In our zoo lynxes surprisingly look (at least visually) a bit taller even than leopards despite the fact that the latter is 2 times more massive. Lynx's body structure is a bit different than other bigger cats, its more "skinny", lynx sometimes looks larger than it is in reality. I mean the shape of the animals from profile not always give real impression about their real weight. No way man, check this out  *This image is copyright of its original author the Lynx from this pic is way greater, it could compare against the largest african leopard! and dwarfing snow leopard, Not possible! even Cheetah is a long legged cat but it isn't greatly at odds with the snow leopard which is rather short legged, so again i maintain, the lynx and clouded leopard are roughly similar sized cats (body weights) at average, no way clouded leopard would look that small in front of lynx. i am sure clouded leopards proportion is correct but the lynx proportion is exaggerated, not by the desginer though (he did awsome job) but rather due to incorrect measurements taken as pointed by Guate.
Let's do something. I am going to investigate all the measuremens of lynx and image of live animals, and I am going to search the original source of that huge head-body length. Of course, if you also found information, you can't post it here (if there is no problem with Moderators, of course). After that, I am going to show the conclutions and we are going to make the modifications, if are necesary, ok?
So, let's do it!
Jimmy I don't talk about clouded leopard. Again I can confirm that Eurasian lynxes in our zoo look taller than leopards, even I know that is kind of optical illusion, in same time their body is quite shorter but fluffy. Long legs of lynx allow him to walk in deep snow, its paws look almost weirdly giant for such a small body and allow to lynx to not sink in the snow.
 *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author Eurasian lynx is much larger than Canadian, probably due to the fact that cougar in North America limits the size of lynx, same as cougars in jaguar country tend to be smaller. In northern Eurasia however lynx is the largest cat... In some European countries such a Slovakia people called it a "Carpatian tiger", which is funy for an animal with average weight of males of only 24 kg.... Same as in US cougars a called a mountain "lions" due to the absence of real lions. Concerning clouded leopard don't know what to think, can't agree nor disagree with the images, its a bit terra incognita for me, probably looks a bit small. Maximum weight of Eurasian lynx is 40 kg, what is maximum weight of the clouded cat? In wiki is written 23 kg.
No doubt lynxes are pretty tall cats, but it will be like comparing a black rhino to a giraffe, you can clearly see that bulkiness is pretty similar no matter which one is taller, like cheetah and a leopard, but if you see the comparison pics, that lynx could threaten cheetah, snow leopard and even intimidate a leopard if they met in a real life which looks unusual not only it's long legs even it's head is huge, and comparing it with clouded leopard is just so mismatch. i don't think it's possible
Here we have to remember that lynx is not only tall, but in same time kinda skinny if we remove the long fur, so it could look larger than its in reality. Cats from genus Panthera have more robust body structure. True, probably body of the lynx should be a bit shorter, but the height is fine.
What is the maximum weight of the clouded leopard according to your sources?
The heaveist clouded leopard in hunting and scientific records is a male of 25.2 kg captured in Borneo for radiocollaring studies.
The heaviest Eurasian lynx in scientific records is a male of 28.1 kg in the Sikhote Alin, Russia. The heaviest male in "reliable" hunting record was a male of 36.5 kg from Czechoslovakia. There are other reports of specimens over 40 kg, but according with Heptner & Sludskii (1992) and Sunquist & Sunquist (2002), those are exagerations. Just for comparison, the heaviest wild snow leopard is of 52 kg and was captured in Mongolia for radiocollaring studies. So the cheetah is, in fact, larger than the snow leopard.
Guate, are you sure that the cat on the image is Eurasian lynx, but not Iberian lynx, this is a different specie from genus Lynx. Iberian lynx seems to be brownish and since it inhabit a warmer habitats doesn't need so elongated legs, so the proportion between height and body length could be different. I have an suspicion that you have got the shape of Iberian lynx and have adjusted the height for Eurasian lynx so that's way animal looks a bit long
 ; maybe I'm wrong.Iberian lynx:  *This image is copyright of its original author
You are correct, that is not an Eurasian Lynx but an Iberian one. I already have its replacement, I found a good specimen jumping, so it will be good for the length comparison. The other lynx in the down part is the correct species.
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(09-14-2018, 09:58 AM)GuateGojira Wrote: Big cats size comparison - reviewed:Wow just very glad to see you guys interest my work :) Thanks @GuateGojira @Wolverine @Jimmy @epaiva to correct the info of that pic Like I said, I made it 3 or 4 years ago just for fun, that time was before I knew wildfact, so my work now belong to our forum, like all pics, study, news and knowledge that you guys share in our forum ---> so feel free to edit and discuss, I always follow you guys and our Cats! PS: The honor is mine to see you guys discuss about my pics! This time I'm very busy, but if I have time I will make some digital art pics about our Great Cats, I swear!!! |
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