Personal Opinion & Speculations

[Pantherinae]

(06-11-2018, 11:41 AM)Spalea Wrote: @Pantherinae :

I don't want to take part in this discussion by giving the name of the "lucky winner" felid. But:


1) By arguing in accordance with the "Pound for pound" concept, the more smaller an animal is, the more stronger he is... It's a fact that the most powerful animal on Earth are the insects. No one mammal can accomplish "Pound for pound" what a lone ant (I could consider an infinite number of other insects) would be able to do. And that by very far. Thus, within the same animals family we consider here i.e. the big cats, the pantherinae, the most "pound for pound" powerful cat would be the leopard. Logically, being the smallest big cat... Why not ? Because being not an apex predator it makes such feats we don't never see among the other big cats (climbing onto a tree with a big prey only held in its mouth). Logically, but I don't want to go further in this argumentation.

2) Therefore, only one comparaison would be fair: to consider two animals at equal weight. Among the big cats, tiger, lion, jaguar and leopard only the first two have an equivalent weight at first sight, the tiger and the lion.

And we risk a "tiger vs lion" debate... These both animals are differently agenced according to the environment in which they live. Each of the two are apex predator, the tiger individually is the most amazing, the most fascinating but the lions have other assets from their social way of live.

Then..

Well we must Consider the square-cube laws when talking about insects, like an ant the side of a man is actually physically weaker than the human. But the hercules beetle is insanely strong capable of lifting 800 times it’s own weight! 
The same can be said for the cats, although a much smaller scale. The leopard has insane abilities and strengths, but needs extreme acceleration and manuverble limbs for climbing so I would personally think the leopard would be the weakest, then it’s much harder to pick the next cat it’s between the Lion and Jaguar jaguars are more compact, but the Lion is very muscular especially in the upper body. So that is almost impossible to decide. Then I would put the tiger at top. 
I think we can discuss this as adults. and this is not a fight discussion it’s a strength at equal size discussion. It’s all very close, although I think the biggest cat is also the strongest, there has still been well documented cases where Lions have beaten tigers in staged fights. So the vs debate is silly imo. Reply